85 force 50hp trim help plz

[tinbender2u]

85 force 50hp trim help plz

I have trim problem motor will go up wired straight battery reverse wires w/n go down /pump bad ? had water in it was milky when i drained it any info on how to get it rebuilt will help or rebuild kit available ? also can i use different relays (starter relay's and what type plz) keeps frying the relays

 

[12Footer]

Re: 85 force 50hp trim help plz

Re: 85 force 50hp trim help plz

The motor should reverse, if the leads are reversed. The relays normally do this job, but if you have the two wires from the trim motor in your hand and touch one to each post of a battery, it will go one way. Turn them around,and they go the other. Does the motor make any racket at all? Does it spark? My rough guess is the brushes are hanging-up. Try thumping the case of the motor with a screwdriver handle (be easy, do you don't freak the magnets out).<br />As for the relays, yes, they are standard {SPDT 10AMP} headlamp relays. You can take one out, take it to a good auto parts supply, and get the counter person to cross the Bosch number to the brand he carries,for 5-7 buks each. And they'll plug right in.

 

[tinbender2u]

Re: 85 force 50hp trim help plz

Re: 85 force 50hp trim help plz

thanx for the reply 12 footer // yes have wires in hand connect one way goes up /connect other motor runs but will not go down had water in pump was milky looking so drained refilled with non-detergent motor oil 40wt (called local boat shop) / should i of use transmission fluid ?? still the same atfer that / can i take it apart without tearing anything up and check seals? never had any experince on this lol

 

[12Footer]

Re: 85 force 50hp trim help plz

Re: 85 force 50hp trim help plz

Does the motor operate in both directions? If it does, the problem is in the pump. A simple drain/refill doesn't allways fix it, but you are correct in assuming that it needs new seals, if there was allready some water contamination.<br />I've never had to rebuild one before (just the motor-part), so I am of no help there. If the motor doesn't operate in both directions, it's not the pump or seals. The brushes might be the culprit. But this can be a tricky undertaking for someone who has never been inside a starter motor, or simular electric motor for a rebuild.<br />There should be shops nearby that can do this job for you. If you don't mind trying (at the risk of loosing the motor), I can try to give you a step-by-step procedure. It should come apart fairly easy...But I must warn you, it's very tricky getting it all back together again.

 

[tinbender2u]

Re: 85 force 50hp trim help plz

Re: 85 force 50hp trim help plz

thanx for the info i think i can handle the motor but it runs both ways but the pump don't work both ways ,only one .this board is great for all of us newcomer to boating (fixing others junk lol)got my motor running great with help from this board changed cdi pack out Now if i just had some info on the pump would be doing great local shop said like 800 bucks to send off and have rebuilt. trim is not worth that to me besides i don't have that much in the boat lol and runs great for me .

 

[baboon bum]

Re: 85 force 50hp trim help plz

Re: 85 force 50hp trim help plz

I HAD SAME PROBLEM BUT I STRIPPED THE MOTER AND THE BRUSHES WERE SHORT SO I CUT 2 BITS OF SHAPED METAL AND PACKED THE BRUSHES UP THEY NOW MAKR GOOD CONTACT WITH THE ARMETURE AND GOING FINE NOW,THE OIL YOU HAVE PUT IN IS TOO HEAVY TRY AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION FLUID.

 

[wajajaja]

Re: 85 force 50hp trim help plz

Re: 85 force 50hp trim help plz

hi, raising the motor is the hardpart, I would try disconnecting the return line to the resavior on the pump and flush the pump and lines out by raising the motor and let gravity force the fuild out. the milkshake may have plugged a line or valve. my manual indicates some trims use motor oil and others use hydrolic. and there was a caution about atf. verses plain hydrolic, dont have the book here,its off the top of my flat head.

 

[tinbender2u]

Re: 85 force 50hp trim help plz

Re: 85 force 50hp trim help plz

the trim was working fine brfore i got water in it the plug to fill it fell out somehow / now is all taken apart and drained will put back together and try aft transmission fluid and keep my fingers crossed