1985 Chrysler 85 HP - Timing

rcormier

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When I set the timing as instructed in the Clymer manual the boat won't run. Part of my problem is that I don't trust the timing marks etched in the flywheel. I got a feeling that the TDC mark is not really 0 deg TDC. The book talks about a timing rod that allows you to confirm TDC and 36 deg BTDC but I can't seem to find one. Does anyone know the measurements to for this tool. I can't see why I just can't use a different rod marked with the right measurements. The marks on the flywheel indicate 0 deg TDC when the cylinder is closest to the spark plug connection. I got the impression from the Clymer book, however, that 0 deg TDC is before the piston reaches its maximum travel. Can anybody give me the details on this?
 

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Re: 1985 Chrysler 85 HP - Timing

36 degrees BTDC (before top dead center) is one mark on the tool and the other is TDC (or 0 degrees). First, make sure piston is at top dead center, then adjust tool to align with its 0 mark. Next, rotate flywheel to second mark and that's 36 Degrees. (You have to rotate flywheel until piston goes down and then comes back up to approach 36 BTDC.)<br /><br />I don't know the dimensions for the tool. On my 1967 75 HP, I made sure that TDC (using a dial indicator in the spark plug hole) matched the TDC mark on flywheel and timing tab. No adjustment was necessary for mine. There's only one more mark on my flywheel which is 36 deg. Its a more than a good assumption that the 36 deg mark is in the right place. It would be really strange if it was out. Still, if you want to check it, you can count the teeth on the flywheel and call that "N". Next, divide 360 deg. by N teeth and that gives you the degrees for one tooth. Then take 36 and divide it by the deg./tooth. This gives the nummber of teeth from zero to get to 36 deg. <br /><br />Because 360/36 equals 10, a simplified formula is just N divided by 10 to give you number of teeth from 0 to 36 degrees. I'll bet that's why they mark 36 deg. on the flywheel!<br /><br />Remember, when setting timing<br />1) full advance by having throttle wide open.<br />2) Points just opening triggers spark. Test-light lights when they open. Volt meter goes from zero to 12V when they open.<br />3) many here say use 28 deg instead of the factory spec of 32 due to differences in gasoline back then.<br /><br />4) Double check with timing light by cranking not running the engine. All plugs out with #1 grounded if you have points. ALL Grounded if you have CD to avoid harm to ignition system.<br /><br />5) Always good to keep an eye on spark plugs for indication of timing advanced too much as this can melt a piston.
 

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Re: 1985 Chrysler 85 HP - Timing

Went through the process as indicated above. Problem is, it won't run when the timing is set correctly. Could someone have swapped the plug wires? What is the firing order on an 85 HP?
 
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Re: 1985 Chrysler 85 HP - Timing

Have you had the flywheel off? Are we certain that the flywheel did not shear the crank key.
 

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Re: 1985 Chrysler 85 HP - Timing

I haven't had the flywheel off but I got this used. I did use a rod to feel the piston as I rotated the flywheel manually. The 0 deg mark on the flywheel matched the peak of the top cylinder motion (rod insertion at is shortest point).
 

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Re: 1985 Chrysler 85 HP - Timing

After rebuilding carbs and putting a different CD unit on she flew. The water pump is weak and the water coming out is very hot so tomorrow the impeller gets changed. I'm still concerned about the fact that with "by the book" timing it won't run. I'm worried about the possibility of timing being too far advanced and burnig up the piston. Any suggestions???
 

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Re: 1985 Chrysler 85 HP - Timing

Does anyone know where I should look to find a timing tool for this motor. I have a tough time believing that it is truly running as well as it was with the timing advanced by almost 30 degrees. It died when it got hot and then cranked right back up 10 minutes later. There are two things that I can think of that could have caused that: bad coil (gets hot and stops performing) or vapor lock if the engine is overheating. I'm taking care of the temperature with a new impellor but I'm pretty freaked about the timing issue. If someone has one of those tools and could test something for me it would be a big help.... when you insert it and rotate the flywheel will the rod move out farther than the 0 degree mark? Thanks.
 
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