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tylerin

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With all this computer talk (Bondo) I got kind of hooked on that pcpitstop site and now I'm ready to install more memory since my boat seems to be running up to snuff. Crucial has memory to add to my computer ranging from an extra 256 (which I have now) and an extra 512 and on and on. It says to add to get to the max allowable memory for my computer. I'm running xp. How do I find out what the maximum memory is I can put into my computer?
 

TPD211

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XP can handle a gig of memory or more.<br />It depends on the motherboard and bios.<br />I would go with a max of 512 memory.<br />You dont need the extra memory unless your doing stuff in Photoshop with very large files or your video editing on your PC. <br />Unless the system is specifically configured for a gig or more of memory, stick with 512. <br />You will see a slight performance increase going from 256 to 512, but we as normal users do not see the increase going from 512 to a gig.
 

tylerin

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Thank You, TPD211. Its gonna cost me $40.00 for an extra 256 from Crucial which seems rather cheap. Gives pretty good instructions as to how to install as well. Is there anything I will need to know when I fire her back up for the first time with the new memory? I kind of compare my computer skills to walking through the house in the dark...I'm ok as long as its my house ;)
 

Ralph 123

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How much RAM can Windows handle?<br /><br />That depends on two factors: the amount of memory your computer can handle, and the amount of memory your Windows operating system (OS) can handle. <br /><br />First, your computer is designed to hold a maximum amount of RAM. When you look up your computer in the Memory Selector, you will see the system maximum on the page that lists the compatible upgrades for your system. <br /><br />Second, the OS maximum, is the maximum amount of memory that your particular version of Windows, Linux, or Mac OS can handle. <br /><br />When purchasing your memory upgrade, ensure you do not exceed the lower of the two maximums (OS & computer maximums.) Too much RAM can lower your system's performance or cause other problems. (In most cases, the system maximum is lower than the OS maximum.) <br /><br />Here are the OS maximums for popular versions of Microsoft Windows. <br /><br />Windows 95: 1GB <br />Windows 98: 1GB <br />Windows 98SE: 1GB <br />Windows ME: 1.5GB <br />Windows NT: 4GB <br />Windows 2000 Professional: 4GB <br />Windows 2000 Advanced Server: 4GB or 8GB with PAE enabled <br />Windows 2000 Datacenter Server: 4GB or 64GB with PAE enabled <br />Windows XP Home: 4GB <br />Windows XP Professional: 4GB
http://www.crucial.com/kb/answer.asp?qid=3743 <br /><br />You must also take into account the amount of memory you already have installed and the how it is configured. That is, how many free memory slots do you have available. All SIMMs are not of the same density you can get to 512MB with one SIMM and ave 3 free ones available for more memory of you can get to 512MB by having 4 128MB SIMMs and have no slots available for expansion. In that case, in order to add memory, you would have to replace some of the 128s with more dense SIMMs. So you see, there is no easy answer until you establish where you are and how you got there.<br /><br />Go to www.crucial.com, walk through the selector to help answer some of the questions.
 

Ralph 123

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Is there anything I will need to know when I fire her back up for the first time with the new memory?
No it should adjust automatically. On some systems during the first boot you'll get a message that the memory config has changed press any key to continue. It is just an alert in case you did not intentionally make a change.
 

tylerin

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Again thanks Ralph, I am somewhat computer illiterate, but I do know I have 256mb of ram with one slot left. I looked into the Crucial site and there are a few different choices for my computer ranging from 128mb to 1gb I believe my maximum Ram is 2048mb if I'm reading my report correctly. The additional 256mb will cost me $40.00 or I could add 512mb for 79.00. If I'm trying to achieve 512mb should I just replace the 256 with 512 and leave a slot open for the future. Or am I just in left field here and should leave well enough alone
 

Ralph 123

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I'd buy the additional 256 for $40 (great price) and you should be golden
 

eurolarva

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When buying your ram make sure you have the correct bus speed. I bought 133 bus speed that should have clocked down to my 100 MHz and when I rebooted nothing happened. I returned the ram for dedicated 100 Meg bus speed and it worked. Problem was the 100 Meg stuff was almost twice the cost because of the age of my computer. IF you install and nothing happens just put the old stuff back in the box and search for the correct stuff>
 

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Also make sure you don't have a system where the memory needs to be installed in matched pairs.. NOT uncommon.<br /><br />-Roger
 

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It appears to me,<br />That the price of memory is about as Stable, <br />As the price of Crude Oil........<br />The price, At the Moment seems to be on the lower end of where I've seen it......<br />I'm thinking I ought to Stock Up Now....
 

TPD211

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My hats off to Ralph, he knows his PC dodo :p
 

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I just popped in a new 256 board in my PC today to take me up to 512 RAM. Little better on the speed side for larger programs.<br /><br />While we are in here, I have a question for some of you computer literate folks.<br /><br />I also went to the pc pit stop. This darn pop up kept buggin' me about getting this program to "Tune Up" the ol' PC. Do these darn things work? Now...I know keeping the garbage outta the machine helps...but I ain't to wise on how to rearange things to make the machine more efficent. Hope I said that right. :confused: So I'm thinkin' that's what that "Tune Up" program is all about.<br /><br />Am I in the right ball park on that?
 

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On My old HP I've got the Norton SystemWorks.....<br />It's a Great Program to Defrag, Clean up Cookies,+ uninstalling, etc........<br />I've been looking at other options...<br />The IOIO System Mechanic has Alot more features.... All the stuff the Norton has, as well as pop-up blocking,+ several other cool Ideas....<br />I was all ready to download it last night, when I found the Reviews at ZDnet.... Several posters state that it's an Over-loaded program that They are Dropping,+ going Back to Norton........<br /><br />Any Oppions Here ?????<br />Ralph ?????
 

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I also run Norton with all the stuff.<br />Go into scheduled tasks and set it up to do different things while I'm gone or a sleep.<br /><br />Works for me.
 

eurolarva

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PC Mechanic fixed problems on my computer that norton utilities did not. I had a problem also on my XP system that it fixed. I was so pleased with the program I told people I work with about it. One guy tried optimizing his computer with XP on it and totally locked up the system. Had to take it to the geek squad and have them reformat and reinstall everything. My coworker could not even get it into safe mode. If you run the 30 day trial of Mechanic 4.0 use caution.
 

Ralph 123

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eurolarva's tale is why I find them tough to recommend. You can cause more problems than you "fix". The latest versions of Norton Utilities tend to be safe and fairly effective. The two can't live w/o utilities IMHO are Norton Antivirus (or Macafee) and GoBack Deluxe 3.0<br /><br />With computers, if ain't broke don't fix it unless you are doing it for the learning experience and can afford to start over.<br /><br />One other word of caution: Never, ever, ever update your BIOS unless you know exactly what you are doing. If you lose power during the update or accidentally load the wrong update, your system will be unbootable until you physically replace the BIOS IC or maybe even the whole MB.<br /><br />Also, just keep in mind 90% of the time your processor is idle (doing nothing) and a good chunk of your memory on modern systems is empty. So, in some ways, you are trying to optimize a race car then never gets into second gear. Most of the delays you experience are due to your net connection, your video card and your hard drive.<br /><br />If you want a fast system get the fastest video card with the most video memory, a fast hard drive, at least 256MB of RAM and a fast Internet connection and keep the background software running (nasty little poorly written aps like real player, etc) to a minimum.<br /><br />Keep the number of apps that load when you boot to an absolute minimun..
 

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Yep,<br />That's what I've been reading....<br /><br />Looks like Norton it is.......<br />I was looking at the Norton SystemsWorks Pro at Staples today.....<br />I wanted to see more feedback before I plop down my coin...
 

Ralph 123

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Bondo, you can get legit, legal copies of it off ebay for a lot cheaper than local retail.
 
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