Norton anti virus VS. Trend Micro Internet

[Homerr]

I've always used Norton anti virus up to a few days ago when I attempted to install a newer version.<br />My computer would freeze on the final install.<br />I tried every trick I know to no avail. Norton would NOT go back in.<br /><br />I use the Trend Micro 'House Call' on occasion, and I've found that it picks up stuff that Norton left behind, so I decided to try their all-in-one Internet Security program.<br /><br />I must say, I like it a lot.<br />The program had to uninstall my Zone Alarm firewall because it has it's own. I was a little Leary of this, but so far it seems to stop a lot of things. <br />It have also noticed quite an increase of speed on my system. I was always told Norton is a hog... Now I know it's true.<br /><br />I was curious if anyone has tried Trend Micro's stuff? What do you think?<br /><br />H.

 

[Dunaruna]

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Interesting post, the past few days there has been gremlins with my nortons AV, I'll be keeping an eye on this thread.<br /><br />Aldo

 

[Homerr]

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Dunaruna,<br /><br />Go to: www.trendmicro.com and check it out if you want.<br /><br />You can run a free online scan called 'Housecall':<br /><br /> http://housecall.trendmicro.com/ <br /><br />It picked up things that Norton left behind. From what I've read (and seen myself)... Norton will kill parts of a virus to disable it. Trend Micro will kill it all. <br /><br /><br />H.

 

[kd6nem]

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Homerr,<br />I've never used their commercial or personal products other than their Sysclean free download. ("Housecall as a download"; just use the current definition file whenever you use it. The engine doesn't change too often) Sysclean is not easy to find, but it is WAY more help than McAfee's Stinger. MUCH more thorough, have not seen it miss items that most all other routinely miss despite their grand claims otherwise. Uses the same full load of virus definition files as its big brothers do, unlike Stinger. Of course it is not a substitute for an antivirus program, but it is an excellent tool for cleaning up when something slipped through.<br /><br />My Network Engineers don't seem to be very interested in exploring TrendMicro for some reason. But they have not articulated any reason when I asked. I think when we changed last time it was an emergency scenario and they wanted something reletively proven and familiar, in a hurry without having to do a bunch of research. <br /><br />My thought is if they put this much effort into a free tool, how much more do they have their mainline product refined into a truly quality package? My guess is you'll like what you have- a lot- Homerr.

 

[Bob in Calif.]

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Homerr........<br /><br />In my opinion, Trend PC-Cillin walks on water. I have used it in my sony Viao for going on 2 years and it has been the cat's meow.<br /><br />A couple of weeks ago, my son was having performance problems with his HP PC, which came loaded with Norton.<br /><br />I tried to run the Norton system to check the system, in a manual mode. Nothing found....<br /><br />I went down to Fry's and got the same Trend system for him that I use. You have to totally uninstall Norton prior to the Trend application. After the installation, I went online and right away Trend came thru with some fresh updates.<br /><br />I then did a manual scan on his PC........The Trend PC-Cillin found almost 130 virus' and items of spyware. After cleaning deleting all the bad stuff, his computer works like new. The speed of starting up and downloading has really increased. There frequent updates, to cover new bad stuff that find's it's way to the computer. The updates flash on your screen, when they are available. You can download them right then, or you can download them later, at your convenience.<br /><br />Trend notifies you when it runs a scan, as per your personal settings and notifies you if something is located.<br /><br />You can get it for about $30.00 at Fry's, while downloading direct from Trend online is about $40.00.<br />I suggest you get the disc for $30.00, as it is a much quicker installation, plus you will have a handy backup system, without going to their web site for backup.<br /><br /><br />...Bob in Calif...

 

[Paul Moir]

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You may also wish to look at f-prot. If you're competent to use it, the command line version (scan only, no resident program) is unreservedly free to use for the home.<br />There are certain disadvantages to running the most popular virus scan software out there.<br /> F-Protect

 

[TELMANMN]

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You can not run trendmirco from anything then IE. If you use Mozilla firefox forget it. That leaves me to believe it is not for me.(you can put the plugin into your comp if you want. My Norton works with firefox.)

 

[Dunaruna]

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O/k, ran nortons 2 hrs ago and it found nothing, zip, nada.<br /><br />Clicked homerrs link and ran housecall, bingo! 2 worms and a trojan. Thanks homerr, I'm sold!<br /><br />Aldo

 

[kd6nem]

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telmanmn,<br />What does your browser have to do with it? What are you implying? Mail attachments? Housecall? <br /><br />I'm missing something here. Give me details!

 

[Boomyal]

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I bought Trend Micro after using their housecall for several months. It appears to be seemless and it's effectiveness may be due to their constant updates. I'm very satisified. It also checks all my email.

 

[Homerr]

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Dunaruna...<br /><br />I'm sure Norton disabled the virus (or your defs were outdated)... It probably just left a mess behind. It did the same thing to me. You can search this problem on Google.<br /><br />I think I'm sold on Trend Micro Internet Security.<br /><br />Bob, thanks for the info on buying the disc... I was prepared to buy it direct from Trend, but I'll look around some more.<br /><br />H.

 

[Dunaruna]

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When I ran nortons it came up with the screen 'no viruses found'. Defs are updated (or at least checked) every day but my subscription is almost due - I'm not going to renew nortons, I'll get trend. I also prefer to have a hard copy, don't like using credit cards over the net - don't care how safe they claim it is. Thanks again.<br /><br />Aldo

 

[rwise]

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about a year ago, I put Norton on my machine and remove McAfee, Norton fond parts of worms and virus files that mcafee had killed and called them remnants. I have just taken the expired Norton off and put on computer associates e-trust (ok I'm cheap its free for a year) did not find anything new on the machines. I am going to try the link above and see what happens, anyone using this one?

 

[gsbodine]

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I'm not a big fan of any of the larger protection sstems for my home stuff. I use the best free stuff I can find, and it has worked flawlessly, even with kids using the computers all the time. The big guys, and Norton especially, used far more resources on my computers than AVG did. I have never seen the need to go out and buy new computers every time they up the HP. I use AVG antivirus (www.grisoft.com), Spybot Search and Destroy (www.safer-networking.org), and for computers not attached to my network, Zone Alarm firewall (www.zonelabs.com), all of which have free versions that work as well as any pay stuff.<br /><br />My 2 cents.

 

[Stumpys]

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Norton's is just a huge memory hog! I have used AVG, and it works pretty good. I really like <br />f-prot the best. The only thing about f-prot is that it has to run in DOS. <br /><br />I'm gonna try the proggy you mentioned on my home computer tonight and see how it works. Norton's has to go, cause it's hogging my system. Spybot is also a must program for everyone. Seems almost every site has some sort of spyware. Zone Alarm is another!

 

[Homerr]

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FYI: If you install the Trend Internet System it will remove your Zone Alarm.<br /><br />Zone Alarm has a better interface on what program is doing what. Trend's firewall just quietly sits there.<br /><br />The way I see it... Norton and Zone alarm are like a pit-bull whereas the Trend is more like a Chihuaha... (It is the most dangerous dog in the world cause you never know where the little rascal is before he gnaws your ankle off!) <br /><br />I performed several security tests with Trend, and the only thing it failed on was a ping request. I can only guess that 'hole' is common.<br /><br />H.

 

[Xcusme]

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Homerr,<br />The Trend test probably failed on Port 113 (Ident). This is common. If you have a router, you can configure your router so that you can PASS that part. The trick is not to block port 113 , but to Port Forward the port.<br /><br />Go into your router and goto the section on Port forwarding. Add port 113 TCP/UDP to the list and then enter an IP address that your router is not using. When your router receives a request for port 113 Ident, it will forward the request to the non-existant IP address and it will go into never never land and die. The test site will not receive a response and you'll seem to disappear on the Web.<br /><br />Here's an example:<br /><br />Say your router IP address is 192.168.1.1<br />Enter port 113 in the port forwarding section of your routers settings and tell your router to send the request to , say IP address of 192.168.1.250 (un-used IP address in your router), <br />That's it. go back to Trend and re-run the test.

 

[Homerr]

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Thanks!<br /><br />I'm slowly getting the hang of the networking stuff. I have a D-link router and it's my first one.<br />I started looking at the security settings the other day. Ports this, traffic that.. It's slowing becoming clear.<br />I can study for a month, but northing's better than diving right into the router and see what you can mess up! <br /><br />I'll definitely do what you suggested!<br /><br /><br />H.

 

[Xcusme]

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Yup, the networking thing isn't too hard, but takes some reading. Another suggestion is to find the section in your routers menus and find the section to Save your settings to a file on your hard drive. Just make a folder called D-Link , and save the settings of your router, as they are now. If you get things too far hosed, you can always go back in and 're-load' your original settings and you're right back where you started. <br /><br />BTW, be sure you change the default password too!! If it's a wireless model, turn on WEP or WPA encryption, implement MAC address filtering ect.

 

[Homerr]

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It's not a wireless model. It's too easy to hack into one of those (well..for the determined hacker anyway)<br /><br />I found a setting called 'WAN ping request' and disabled it so it won't respond to ping requests.<br />I re-tested, and sure enough.. it plugged that hole.<br /><br />And yes... I changed the password right after I turned it on!<br /><br />I did see that backup option. Good idea.<br />I'm a backup nut... Dunno why I didn't do this sooner.<br /><br />Do you recommend a good security scanner that's better than your standard online ones?<br /><br />H.