What is the latest protocol on unsolictitated mail?

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I have been receiving an inordinate amount of credit card/ebay/paypal verification email. I have not clicked on any of the links but was wondering if just opening the mail was a mistake.<br />Since a lot of the visitors here and the mods are so have such a great understanding of the protocol I was hoping that some sharing of info might be in order.
 

TELMANMN

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Re: What is the latest protocol on unsolictitated mail?

If not something you subscribe to simply check as spam and send it back. Also if getting what you said I would call your ISP and ask them to not send anything to your old email and change your name and password over the phone. Someone maybe trying to get your info. Be wary.
 

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Yeah, usually it's a scam. PayPal/ebay/etc do not send out emails with links that would need financial information. I get them weekly. :rolleyes: Always make sure before you click on the link that the first part of the link includes "ebay.com" or whatever company it's supposed to be, not some weird domain or a bunch of numbers.
 

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Re: What is the latest protocol on unsolictitated mail?

You posted your Email addy and even your phone number here if I recall correctly, TS.<br /><br />The baddies could have gotten both here or on any other site where you did the same. Didn't require any cloak and dagger stuff.<br /><br />I agree with the above. Change addy and passwords, and don't post them any more.
 

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Re: What is the latest protocol on unsolictitated mail?

Or set up a dummy email account with one of the free providers (yahoo, hotmail). Use it for initial contact with others on message boards, but expect it to get the heck spammed out of it. <br /><br />For example, I have mine3x3@yahoo.com. I know it may get on somebody's list just from posting here, but I don't care. It's not my real email address. I hope that the spammers can't mine email addresses from the member directory here, but if they do, I've got that covered also.
 

Paul Moir

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Re: What is the latest protocol on unsolictitated mail?

You know, I've posted my email address here probably 100 times, and it's also in my profile. But I very rarely get any spam at all.<br /><br />Usually when I do, it's obvious that my email address has been "harvested" from someone else's address book by a peice of spyware. Whatever you do, do not respond to these emails (even to "unsubscribe") as then you become a confirmed email address which is worth a lot more money.<br /><br />Make sure you don't have any spyware on your own computer. If you want use Thunderbird and mark those messages as junk. The heuristics will take over pretty quickly and then you won't even have to look at it.
 
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Re: What is the latest protocol on unsolictitated mail?

Thanks fello0ws. These are emails that are getting through the spam filters. Also they are coming to a webbased server. Not just ebay and paypal but Visa and other letgitimate banks that I have never done business with. I have been returning them as spam, but it seems they have increased in number rather than decreased. Thanks again.
 

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Re: What is the latest protocol on unsolictitated mail?

Replying to and returning e-mails confirms (to the crawlers) that the addy is legitimate, that then gets added to muliple crawlers - before you know it, your addy is targeted by various scams.<br /><br />The scary thing is, the crawlers are mostly automated.<br /><br />Good to see you TS :)
 

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Re: What is the latest protocol on unsolictitated mail?

Don't forget to be sure your computer is free of spyware. adaware & spybot are 2 that I use. Available free on internet.
 
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Re: What is the latest protocol on unsolictitated mail?

Originally posted by Dunaruna:<br /> Replying to and returning e-mails confirms (to the crawlers) that the addy is legitimate, that then gets added to muliple crawlers - before you know it, your addy is targeted by various scams.<br /><br />The scary thing is, the crawlers are mostly automated.<br /><br />Good to see you TS :)
<error> {incorrect symantics]: When I stated I had returned them as spam I meant that I had reported them to the webbased server. I know not to click on anything in the body, because that is just like "agreeing to the TOS" on the so called Service Sites and gives the license to snoop or conduct what might otherwise be "cloak and dagger". Much the same as paying postage on junk mail as opposed to sending it with out a stamp. As long as the fees are "paid" anything you do does not categorize you as a baddie. Even to the extent of being malecious under the guise of propriety. Nice to here from you as well. I think you still owe me a reply, on the private line. Weather here is turning so you must be approacing spring weather down under....
 

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Re: What is the latest protocol on unsolictitated mail?

I sent a PM weeks ago, didn't get it?
 

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Re: What is the latest protocol on unsolictitated mail?

"Spam": The word alone strikes terror in the hearts of e-mail users (although not necessarily in lovers of the processed pork luncheon meat by the same name, and to which this columnist bears no ill will). It has no manners, knows no boundaries, and takes no prisoners. It makes you wring your hands in frustration, shake your fist with rage, and wear out your DELETE key and finger. <br />What is spam?<br />No one I talked to is really sure what the letters in "spam" stand for: <br />· spam: Stupid Pointless Annoying Mail? <br />· spam: Stymieing Practice of Altering Minds? <br />· spam: Scrambled Pieces of Asinine Marketing? <br />Actually, it stands for nothing — it's just unsolicited e-mail (commercial or otherwise) that comes to your Inbox in droves. How it was named "spam" is debated in countless newsgroups and Web sites on that oracle of misinformation we call the Internet. In other words, no one is really sure.<br />How can I avoid spam?<br />While you can spend lots of your hard-earned cash on spam blockers, spam butchers, spam SWAT teams, spam sharpshooters, and spam spammers, you can also take a few steps yourself to reduce your daily spam rations. <br />Method #1: Avoid replying to the sender<br />When you reply and type REMOVE in the subject line, this is a great way to let spammers know that yes, your e-mail address is up, running, and being used right now. It's like waving a white flag that says, "I read unsolicited e-mail. Please send more." <br />The best way to "opt out" of a spammer's mailing list is to pretend you never received the e-mail message. Put your hands over your ears and sing, "La-la-la-la...I can't HEAR you!" (No one likes to be ignored.) <br /><br />Method #2: Alter your e-mail address when you post it <br />You might post your e-mail address sometimes to a newsgroup, chat room, or bulletin board. But you don't have to post it correctly. The funky term for this is "munging" your address. This means adding a character, number, or symbol (or two) that has to be taken out for your address to work (for example, "johnd@ffc.com) It really throws those automatic "address harvesters" (yikes, what a term!) off balance, and they just slink away from whence they came. <br />Method #3: Don't give out your primary e-mail address <br />Create a "disposable" Web e-mail address (such as one from an MSN Hotmail account or Yahoo account) that you can give when registering for free software or shareware, or even when ordering from a company online. In fact, Hotmail & Yahoo can help you avoid getting spam. I like to give my primary address to friends and family, and then I have another one I use when I'm ordering some new rhinestone glasses or hair coloring. <br />Method #4: Make use of laws against spam <br />The CAN-SPAM Act of 2003 was approved by the Senate in November 2003 and by the House of Representatives in December 2003, and was signed into law by President Bush on December 16, 2003. <br />For more information about spam laws that have been enacted and those still waiting around patiently, visit www.spamlaws.com Web site.<br />Method #5: Don't post your address on your Web page<br />Again, you can munge it or not post it there at all. Then those nasty spam weevils can't find you.<br />Method #6: Review Web sites' privacy policies <br />I know that you're an Internet expert and that you can blaze through those online forms at lightning speed. But slow down, Cha-Cha, and make sure that you're checking all the privacy options you need to check. Sometimes these are hard to find, but they're there. And sometimes there is more than one box to check. Some sites assume the right to share your information; responsible sites will give you a way to opt out. <br /><br /><br />An example:<br />Let's say that you're in the process of purchasing a fabulous new pair of rhinestone glasses. You've filled out all the pertinent information: Size, style, shipping and billing info, and an e-mail address to receive the order confirmation. Now before you click the "place order" button, look around. Are there any check boxes or tiny form fields on that page that are checked to indicate that you're fine with this company selling or giving away your e-mail address to "responsible" parties? Make sure you uncheck (or check, whichever the case may be) where necessary. In fact, backtrack through the pages and make sure you didn't forget to indicate your "don't-you-dare-sell-this-e-mail-address" preference. <br /><br /><br />And here is a tip: <br />Even if you did all the right things and found all the sneaky little boxes, make sure you check those boxes again if, for some reason, you have to backtrack through the form. Sometimes sneaky vendors will set the pages to go back to the default setting, thereby tripping you up again. Good grief, it takes such vigilance, doesn't it? (Yes, but it's worth it.)<br /><br />Method #7: Don't list yourself in Internet directories <br />This is a tough one. If you're in the regular phone book, chances are you're in one of the big directories such as BigFoot, AnyWho, InfoSpace, Switchboard, and Yahoo!. Look yourself up, and there you'll be. There is probably a place to add your e-mail address (for free, can you believe it?), but my advice is: Don't.
 

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Re: What is the latest protocol on unsolictitated mail?

May I take a moment to highly recommend Microsoft's Anti-Spyware Beta 1. Go to www.microsoft.com, it's right there on the front page. Anyone with XP can download it and use it for free. Adaware and Spybot did an OK job, but Microsoft's version beat the snot outta them both and found another hundred or so spyware items hidden on my machine that Adaware and Spybot were not catching. I've used it for 6 months now and it works GREAT. Runs every single night while I sleep and when I wake up gives me a report of anything it found and killed. Requires absolutely zero user input after initial installation and setup except to close the notification window every morning. It even updates itself automatically when needed so it's always current.
 
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Re: What is the latest protocol on unsolictitated mail?

Thank you Cadet Mighty J****C*****. :D May I assume that you have already made it to top rank and are now starting over again? Remember; Spam won the war. Just a note here, number of posts not length is what moves you up the ladder. ;) :) :D
 
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Thank you Krazy one. I am still running windows 98 so microslops version will not work for me.
 

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Re: What is the latest protocol on unsolictitated mail?

Not trying to move up the ladda....I'm just an Exchange Admin trying to educate about SPAM...I apologize for lengthy response.....
 
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Originally posted by Dunaruna:<br /> I sent a PM weeks ago, didn't get it?
Last one I received was the one on what you thought was a latin phrase. Turns out it was a Russian *******azation and is the equivelant of thumbing ones nose. I was going to post the google site but just let it slide. Are the cricket matches over? My dial up and limited resources do not support opening five page threads. What ever you sent, please send again. :D
 

Triton II

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techno, cricket thread's now a six pager! Yep, the cricket's over and the Poms are still celebrating their once in a lifetime win! So they should, they won't get another chance for at least another 20 years. :D
 
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Originally posted by MYTJC:<br /> Not trying to move up the ladda....I'm just an Exchange Admin trying to educate about SPAM...I apologize for lengthy response.....
No apology necessary. I was speaking tongue in cheek. More data requires fasta processors and the more cheatas the more the data. cest la vie.
 
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