Castro dead??

[PW2]

Re: Castro dead??

Ok, 12 footer...

We've been trying your theory for half a century in Cuba. How's it working so far?

Sure I'm not suggesting it will be easy in Cuba, or that it will be without problems and setbacks. But the embargo simply is not working, they never work, and they end up hurting the general populace far more than they hurt Castro and the gov't. and we should at some point try a different tack.

As far as JFK's dealings with Cuba, that was a different time, with different threats. Times change, and so should solutions attempted.

 

[rottenray6402]

Re: Castro dead??

I would say the last 50 years have worked fine, maybe not so much for the Cubans but we don't have missles aimed at us from 90 miles away. If we would support the ex pariots exiled from Cuba to go in and take the country back that would be the best of all solutions. We know that isn't happening!
Times do change but human nature doesn't. The nature of man is to dominate and control. The weapons to do that change but the basic drive is there. The one huge mistake that most libs make is they think they can reason with wackos and then trust them to do what they say.

 

[txswinner]

Re: Castro dead??

A doctor (deceased) friend told of his flight from Cuba. Said when Fidel took over Dr. were no longer upper class but seen as same as peasants. All children went to same school, no more private schools for children with special superior levels of intelligence. He said he even had to go to a doctor friend to get a medical excuse because the government expected his children to have to work in the fields just like all the other kids.

Batiste was a pawn and the island was full of rich folks being waited on by poor and run by the American Mafia. I can understand the mentality that resulted in the revolution.

We should reopen communication and trade with Cuba, after all is Japan and Vietnam a trade partner now. Open markets would result in the elimination of Socialism.

One thing that we might learn from them is that 95% of all Cuban citizens are literate. Teachers are at the top of the social ladder as it exist and greed is not tolerated.

Ok now start the name calling if you like.

 

[12Footer]

Re: Castro dead??

Ok, 12 footer...

We've been trying your theory for half a century in Cuba. How's it working so far?


as far as JFK's dealings with Cuba, that was a different time, with different threats. Times change, and so should solutions attempted.

JFK's way, not mine. I always thought Batista's Cuba was better because we Americans could go there. In Castro's Cuba, we cannot.. You must have the idea that I like it the way it is still-- for some reason.

Sure I'm not suggesting it will be easy in Cuba, or that it will be without problems and setbacks. But the embargo simply is not working, they never work, and they end up hurting the general populace far more than they hurt Castro and the gov't. and we should at some point try a different tack.

If I had any illusions that things will now be REMOTELY different than it was with Fidel in charge, I would totally agree with you, that "dialogue" would be a start to a new day in American/Cuban diplomacy. But I have no such illusions. I guess time will tell, PW. I truely hope Raul is different, and wants to free his country. But until then, yes -- status quo.

 

[PW2]

Re: Castro dead??

I would do exactly the same thing if Fidel recovers, BTW, although it would be far fetched for this administration to do that without losing face.

The Cuban people have lots to gain, as do we Americans, with a free and open trading policy. We don't have Soviet missles trained on us because the Soviet Union no longer exists.

The one thing I know for sure. If you are an investor, you'd be well advised to keep the current administration in power, and buy stock in bomb factories

 

[KaGee]

Re: Castro dead??

I keep hearing Raul has been a ghost in all of ths... anybody else hear that?

One would think he would be out there, if nothing else to keep all the speculation and theories to a minimum.
Rumors have floated for years that he has a drinking problem.

 

[12Footer]

Re: Castro dead??

I would do exactly the same thing if Fidel recovers, BTW, although it would be far fetched for this administration to do that without losing face.

The one thing I know for sure. If you are an investor, you'd be well advised to keep the current administration in power, and buy stock in bomb factories

From Cuba and Castro to "I hate Bush"... The pathology of this obscession absolutely fascinates me. I wonder if Kerry was in charge as was JFK, (who instituted the present embargo BTW), the left would still be this pathologically bitter. !@#$%!!
Castro dies and it's Bush's fault! "Buy stock in bombs"? Ewww. the patholgy of liberal investors is sometimes SCAREY!!!

I shouild've known before posting my first reply!!

 

[rottenray6402]

Re: Castro dead??

Do they sell stock in bomb factories? Hummmmm, better investment than NYT stock I would say.
For a good investment though you can get your one way liberal glasses right here!

 

[PW2]

Re: Castro dead??

JFK's embargo of Cuba was a well thought out intelligent reaction for the time.

It has been continued to one degree or another by every administration, Repub or Dem since then, with less and less justification.

I didn't like it during Clinton, and I don't like it now under Bush.

You are correct on one thing. While I didn't like all the policies of Clinton, I don't like most of the policies of Bush, and ultimately think he will be historically remembered as one of the worst presidents in this country's history.

I just hope the country survives him.

 

[Vlad D Impeller]

Re: Castro dead??

Why is Cuba more important than other carribean and Latin American countries?
The only thing that i can think of is votes down in Florida.

 

[12Footer]

Re: Castro dead??

Why is Cuba more important than other carribean and Latin American countries?
The only thing that i can think of is votes down in Florida.

It's proximity to the United States mainland is THE primary strategic concern.

A couple of questions that might show you the more overall perspective when including the rest of the carabean , (and not to change the topic to "I like Bush, you don't" again)...
Why are the rest of the Caribean Islands on trading terms with the US?
Why is Puerto Rico not a state?

 

[technostingray]

Re: Castro dead??

Why is Cuba more important than other carribean and Latin American countries?
The only thing that i can think of is votes down in Florida.

..., (and not to change the topic to "I like Bush, you don't" again)...

Why is Puerto Rico not a state?

"It is a fool that looks for logic in the inner working of politics" (anonymous)

 

[12Footer]

Re: Castro dead??

Why is Cuba more important than other carribean and Latin American countries?
The only thing that i can think of is votes down in Florida.

..., (and not to change the topic to "I like Bush, you don't" again)...

Why is Puerto Rico not a state?

"It is a fool that looks for logic in the inner working of politics" (anonymous)

And yet, thread after thread of looking for said "logic". BTW -- is that your answer?