Starting of 6 hp Evinrude

[soh_2]

Good Morning,
I have just finished getting my new (1991) 6 hp Evinrude
outboard ready for my dinghy.
I have replaced spark plugs, put a new fuel pump in along with new fuel lines. The fuel is new w/conditioners,
because of the problems with ethanal added to fuel now.
Everthing worked great @ home on stand with 1 pull start.
When I put it on dinghy last weekend, again 1st pull start.
Last night I went to marina to start after a week of sitting,
the only way it would start is with a squirt of starting fluid,
which I understand is not a good idea to do every time.
What could I do or add to fuel to get a 1st pull start every
time?
Any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated
Thanks, Bob

 

[rickdb1boat]

Re: Starting of 6 hp Evinrude

Are you sure the choke is working properly?

 

[soh_2]

Re: Starting of 6 hp Evinrude

Are you sure the choke is working properly?

How would I check on the choke?
I can smell gas when I begin and when I shut down the choke works fine

 

[soh_2]

Re: Starting of 6 hp Evinrude

Are you sure the choke is working properly?

 

[rickdb1boat]

Re: Starting of 6 hp Evinrude

You would want to look in the carb when the choke is activated and make sure the choke plate is fully closed. What do you mean when you say the choke works fine when you shut down? Is that how you are shutting down the motor?

 

[soh_2]

Re: Starting of 6 hp Evinrude

You would want to look in the carb when the choke is activated and make sure the choke plate is fully closed. What do you mean when you say the choke works fine when you shut down? Is that how you are shutting down the motor?

Rick,
I cannot easily see carburetor plate w/o taking off air silencer (which I haven't done yet,because it is not easy)
Yes, I pull on the choke to shut down, is there another way?
Bob

 

[Xcusme]

Re: Starting of 6 hp Evinrude

Bob, look on the left side of the tiller arm, is there a pushbutton ?
If there is a push button, thats the Stop motor button. Press it to stop the motor.

 

[Vic.S]

Re: Starting of 6 hp Evinrude

The fact that the engine stops when the choke knob is pulled indicates that it is working. You are choking the engine and giving it an over rich mixture until it dies. It may be the reason you are having difficulty starting it next time.

The stop button is #2 on this diagram

You should be pulling the choke knob out to start the engine not stop it but it will probably have to be pushed in partly as soon as it fires and in fully after a short time.

 

[soh_2]

Re: Starting of 6 hp Evinrude

The fact that the engine stops when the choke knob is pulled indicates that it is working. You are choking the engine and giving it an over rich mixture until it dies. It may be the reason you are having difficulty starting it next time.

The stop button is #2 on this diagram

You should be pulling the choke knob out to start the engine not stop it but it will probably have to be pushed in partly as soon as it fires and in fully after a short time.

Vic
I'll try that tomorrow, I thought that was the emergency kill switch, that the lanyard fits into grove.
Does that mean everytime you restart you have to replace clip?

 

[soh_2]

Re: Starting of 6 hp Evinrude

Bob, look on the left side of the tiller arm, is there a pushbutton ?
If there is a push button, thats the Stop motor button. Press it to stop the motor.

Rick,
I'll try that tomorrow, I thought that was the emergency kill switch, that the lanyard fits into grove.
Does that mean everytime you restart you have to replace clip?

 

[Vic.S]

Re: Starting of 6 hp Evinrude

I thought that was the emergency kill switch, that the lanyard fits into grove.
Does that mean everytime you restart you have to replace clip?

Sorry i did not realise that was a switch for a lanyard. My is 6hp is a little older and does not have a lanyard, just a push button to stop it (and that's on the end of the tiller) If you have a lanyard then the motor should only run when the clip is in place and will stop as soon as the clip is pulled off. The idea being that with the lanyard round your wrist if you fall over board then the clip will be pulled off and the motor will stop. So yes you fit the clip before you start the engine and pull it off to stop it.

Also when starting you shoud partly open the throttle to a position that is marked with a double circular symbol. If yours is like the slighlty older ones the starter mechanism will not operate if the throttle is open too far.

 

[soh_2]

Re: Starting of 6 hp Evinrude

I thought that was the emergency kill switch, that the lanyard fits into grove.
Does that mean everytime you restart you have to replace clip?

Sorry i did not realise that was a switch for a lanyard. My is 6hp is a little older and does not have a lanyard, just a push button to stop it (and that's on the end of the tiller) If you have a lanyard then the motor should only run when the clip is in place and will stop as soon as the clip is pulled off. The idea being that with the lanyard round your wrist if you fall over board then the clip will be pulled off and the motor will stop. So yes you fit the clip before you start the engine and pull it off to stop it.

Also when starting you shoud partly open the throttle to a position that is marked with a double circular symbol. If yours is like the slighlty older ones the starter mechanism will not operate if the throttle is open too far.

I tried it yesterday (Sunday) and the kill switch worked great even with the lanyard connected. THANKS
I hope next weekend I won't have any problems starting on the 1st pull. Maybe I will be more aware of the starting procedure. I hope I will not have any more problems.
Bob

 

[Vic.S]

Re: Starting of 6 hp Evinrude

Just another thing. When you have finished for the weekend and won't be using the engine again for several days disconnect the fuel line and let it run at idle speed until it uses all the fuel in the carb. If you do that it reduces the risk of gum forming in the carb over a prolonged period and minimises the amounnt of fuel that gets spilled if you lay it down to transport it.

 

[soh_2]

Re: Starting of 6 hp Evinrude

Just another thing. When you have finished for the weekend and won't be using the engine again for several days disconnect the fuel line and let it run at idle speed until it uses all the fuel in the carb. If you do that it reduces the risk of gum forming in the carb over a prolonged period and minimises the amounnt of fuel that gets spilled if you lay it down to transport it.

Vic,
Well it has been a couple of weeks trying different ways to start my outboard on the 1st or even 3rd pull- NO LUCK except with a squirt of starting fluid.
I have heard that is not a good idea, but I cannot start it w/o it. When I give it a quick squirt, it fires on next pull.
What next???

 

[danpemby]

Re: Starting of 6 hp Evinrude

When you start it you must choke it. My 4hp works the same way as your 6. You choke it to start it and then when you are finished you press the kill switch. As stated above if you are going to transport it , take off the fuel line and let it run out of fuel.

Make sure when you replace the line you pump the bulb until it is firm, then with full choke start it, once it starts open the choke back up.

 

[soh_2]

Re: Starting of 6 hp Evinrude

When you start it you must choke it. My 4hp works the same way as your 6. You choke it to start it and then when you are finished you press the kill switch. As stated above if you are going to transport it , take off the fuel line and let it run out of fuel.

Make sure when you replace the line you pump the bulb until it is firm, then with full choke start it, once it starts open the choke back up.

Hi,
I have tried all the above with different combos w/ no luck
Each time I try to go slow so as not to flood carb. but do what all you guys have suggested.
It all comes down to having to squirt a little starting fluid,
which drives me crazy. It only happens the first time and will start on first the rest of the day.
ANY help would be greatly appreciated.

 

[BF]

Re: Starting of 6 hp Evinrude

First thing you should do when you go to start is squeeze the primer bulb on the fuel line until it is firm.... then put choke on... make sure it's in neutral, put throttle to start, make sure lanyard clip is in if so equipped, and pull... depending on motor you might have to be quick on shutting off the choke or it'll die. My 6 hp likes the choke left on for about 3-5 seconds after it fires, after that it starts flooding.

Have you been pumping the fuel bulb until firm? Sounds like theres no fuel in the carb when you go to start it (bowl is empty and needs to be primed with bulb ? ).

And yes starting fluid is BAD BAD BAD for a 2 stroke. It not only doesn't have oil in it, it washes away whatever oil is in the cylinders. If it really needs a squirt of something, put a bit of your gas/oil mix into a squirt bottle and use that. (but you shouldn't need to).

0h, one more thing... I think you might have your expectations too high if you're expecting a start on the first pull... on mine (which is very good running) I'd say about 4 or 5 pulls is the norm after a week long lay up. (needs a couple pulls to get the fuel/air mix into the cylinders of a cold motor that I ran dry the last time I was out)... After that, it's 1st or 2nd pull for the rest of the weekend.

 

[soh_2]

Re: Starting of 6 hp Evinrude

I am heading to marina soon, so I will try pumping bulb before pulling out choke, maybe that will help.
I guess my expectations are high but not crazy. I would not mind 4-5 pulls to start, but it doesn't.
Here is hoping a final reply- thanks to you all