Stupid @#$^!@& gophers!

ZmOz

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I've spent all summer working on my lawn, and just when it finally starts to look nice guess who shows up. :| First they paved over the nearby wheat fields, and the gophers invaded the hazlenut orchard. Then they paved over the hazlenut orchard and they invaded the abandoned orchard behind my house. Now they're in my yard.

When I was a kid I used to help my dad pick the dirty little bastards off with a shotgun, but I think the homeowners association frowns on that. d:)

Anyway, a few questions:
Do any of those electronic gopher repellers really work?
Should I plumb the exhaust from my lawnmower down this big hole in my yard? :)

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Plainsman

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Re: Stupid @#$^!@& gophers!

Don't know about the electictronic stuff, but the spring loaded "spear" works well to kill them.
 

ratracer

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Trap one, then use the lawnmower exhaust trick with a tarp tossed over the cage. Repeat as needed.
 

ZmOz

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Re: Stupid @#$^!@& gophers!

The problem with killing them is that there's an acre of abandoned property behind me. Where most of the gophers live. When I kill one in my yard there's always going to be another...
 

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Re: Stupid @#$^!@& gophers!

If they are coming from the abanded lot, get the home owners assc involved. If they won't let you shoot them, make them get rid of them.
 

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Re: Stupid @#$^!@& gophers!

if you were to run your car's exhaust in the hole, that would do a faster job and look less suspicious
 

rwise

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Re: Stupid @#$^!@& gophers!

My Aunt swears by using habrenaro(SP) peppers to get rid of gofers! Just dig into there hole and stuff one in here and there! She has no gofers in her yard!
 

ndemge

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Around here we treat for the grubs that the moles eat... are gophers the same way?

...but you have to treat EVERYWHERE or the rest of the property gets worse. (or your neighbors)
 

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Re: Stupid @#$^!@& gophers!

Picture looks like a mole hill. Mole trap (spears)worked best for me. Some say treat the lawn for grubs and the moles will go look elsewhere.
Gophers, chipmunks, use an air rifle or a cat. Cat worked best but air rifle was more fun!

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ZmOz

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Re: Stupid @#$^!@& gophers!

How exactly do you tell the difference between a mole and a gopher?

This morning I found two more holes, and as I was standing out there cussing at them another one popped up...so I killed it with a hammer. That's what happens when you make me mad before I've had my caffeine. d:)
 

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Re: Stupid @#$^!@& gophers!

GF says it's a mole mound.

Gophers and Moles
People are confused about the difference between Gophers and Moles. Moles are insectivores they eat earthworms, bugs, larvae, grubs, spiders, centipedes and only occasionally nibble on greens and roots. Most of the time, they do very little damage other than through their tunneling, unearthing plants and exposing root systems. How can you tell a gopher from a mole? Gopher mounds have dirt pushed off to one side of the mound while moles have a volcano effect with the center at the entrance to the tunnel (usually plugged up). Poisons do not work on moles! They must be trapped and moved away. Gophers can do a great deal of damage, and eat many plants. Spreading horse manure over your lawn and plants occasionally will help deter gophers as they do not like manure.

http://www.eastbaygarden.com/pests.htm
 

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I had a neighbor (I moved) that used a "gopher blaster". He stuck a probe in their hole attached to a propane tank. He fed some gas into the hole and then ignited it with an electric spark he rigged up. The noise and flying dirt was a hoot.8)
 

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Pour bleach and ammonia into the hole then cover it. This produces chlorine gas. Make sure you don't breath the gas or you might join the gophers in the ground.]
 

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JRJ, I have used the "Rodex 2000" as it is called. I personally call it the "Gophernator 5000". It runs on propane and oxygen. Set the mix, put the nozzle in the hole, pull the trigger, count to 30, and push the ignitor. Man O Man, does stuff blow up. It is just about as rednecky-fun as you can get. If you want some real fun, let it run for a minute and then ignite it, dirt flies everywhere and it feels like you are in Vietnam all over again. You have to wear ear protection, a helmet, and a face shield, it is loud as heck and sends stuff flying everywhere. Good Fun...

Z, go to the hardware store and look for 4 packs of gas sticks called "Giant Destroyers". Then go home, rake all the mounds out in the evening. The next morning, look for the fresh mounds. Use a probe and probe 12 inches away from the mound, every few inches, all the way around. You will feel it when the probe enters a tunnel. Light the gas stick, push it lighted end first into the hole, and plug the hole with a rock. These gas sticks will kill everything up to and including skunks.
 

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Re: Stupid @#$^!@& gophers!

We had that problem after planting a new lawn. Bought wind powered mole chasers (wind mill mounted on a hollow tube with a BB in it.... as the blades turn it shakes that BB) Drove a 1/2" Galv. pipe 2 ft in the ground, mounted the chaser, and it ran them off in about 3 days, haven't been back and 1 chaser covers about 100' in all directions.
 

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Feed a stray cat... We no longer have any gophers, chipmunks, rabbits... Come to think of it, we have less birds too. The thing is a killing machine...
 

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Re: Stupid @#$^!@& gophers!

ZmOz said:
How exactly do you tell the difference between a mole and a gopher?

This morning I found two more holes, and as I was standing out there cussing at them another one popped up...so I killed it with a hammer. That's what happens when you make me mad before I've had my caffeine. d:)

If you've seen a mole you can't mistake it for a gopher. Moles are fairly small (prolly mouse to small rat size), have really pointed noses, and 'flipper-like' claws for digging rather than regular front legs. I believe they're blind. Extremely ugly little buggers. Even though they eat grubs & insects instead of plants, they can tear up your yard with large pushed up tunnel systems crisscrossing the yard once they take hold. Sounds like you've got gophers, you'd know a mole if you saw it. Pic of mole below, the real ugly one is a starnose mole.

mole.jpg


Link to site for info & products for mole control:
http://www.doyourownpestcontrol.com/mole-control.htm

Link to site for info & products for gopher control:
http://www.doyourownpestcontrol.com/gopher.htm

I'd love to see the Gophernator 5000 in action on a large gopher tunnel system! Sounds like a re-creation of the final scene in Caddy Shack!

the following text is edited, the original chemical was wrong, see Xcusme's post below

Another method I heard about almost 20 years ago is to use calcium carbide. When water is poured on calcium carbide, it forms acetylene gas.

extract from an online search:

...advice from Alice Upham Smith, one of this country's respected landscape architects. Smith is in her 80s, and she passed along this advice, given to her 25 years ago.

She says: ``Dig a hole in an active mole run. Pour in about half a cup of calcium carbide. Don't smoke, because it's flammable. Cover the hole with dirt again and then pour water on it. The calcium carbide becomes acetylene gas, which kills the moles. It is not harmful to anything above ground.

``If the runs are extensive, do several spots at once. We did this on the golf course at Stephens College in Columbia, Mo., one year, and I think they used too much of the chemical, because they found dead moles up on the surface afterwards. Usually they just expire underground in the tunnel and that is the end of the trouble.''


p.s. as part of my search to correct the wrong info I gave, I noticed that most sites recommend trapping as the most effective way to eliminate moles.

p.p.s. one other thing I read is to note that alot of chemicals that will kill grubs will also kill beneficial creatures under your lawn (like earthworms).
 

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Re: Stupid @#$^!@& gophers!

Find a castor bean plant and snip off a cluster of them. Use a vice grips to crush them and stick a couple in their runs. The castor bean is a deadly poison so don't use your hands to do this with. Use the vice grips. They will evacuate your place for the neighbors and then you can sell the rest of your castor beans to them.
 

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"p.s. another method of gassing tunnel systems I've heard about is to use calcium carbonate crystals. After water is added it creates a poisonous gas. Might be cheaper than some of the commercial products specially marketed for gassing tunneling pests. But i'd do an internet search on it before using calcium carbonate, as I heard about this method over 20 years ago. I'd want some updated info before considering it's use."

Poisonous gas?? I didn't know carbon dioxide was deadly!
Actually, adding a strong acid will produce carbon dioxide as a byproduct. Now, adding the dreaded compound Dihydrogen Monoxide is another matter altogether. Read more about it here:
http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html
 
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