The Popes point

[DJ]

Re: The Popes point

Matttt,

You let your prejudice get the best of you.

You prefaced Islamic with "radical". Yet, your statement regarding Priests assumes-ALL.

Sounds like a media soundbite. "Details at 11:00".

 

[Mark42]

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The Pope made a good point.

Then he showed he is spinless by apologizing. The "outrage" response by Muslims just proves the Pope's quote is 100% correct.

If he was within arms reach, I would smack him repeatedly.

The Muslims raise heck when a cartoon or opinion or quote is made against them. But no one seems to get up in arms when the Muslems cut the heads off of innocent adults and children.

Go figure.

 

[oddjob]

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ok, radical islamics kill and catholic priests fondle little boys. i don't which is worse.

I was gonna make some remarks about this statement earlier, but it speaks for itself. Too bad you cant edit it now. Could be incriminating....if you meant what you said you should seek help or turn yourself in. Are you being sarcastic or just jealous of a few priests?

 

[jtexas]

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"respective of any mainstream " -- mainstream schmainstream.


"defensive or retaliatrory " -- as Jesus Christ (the guy who put the "Christ" in "Christian") says, "love one another, unless you want to retaliate."

Please enlighten me as to where to find that Quote from Christ

That answer was for 12Footer.
Sorry I didn't use the [sarcasm] marker.

[note to mark42: "I regret that you were offended by my remarks" is not an apology.]

 

[Plainsman]

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So what about the bombing of churches and the killing of a nun today? Yep them muslum's are some nice folks!( and don't give that cr$p that not all muslums are bad. I'm done with the PC cr$p)
Some of you would probablly have them over for dinner and evening prayers.
I agree with Mark, no apology requried! I don't see the whacko's apologizing for all the beheadings or suicide bombers. Once that happens, I might changed my point of view of them, just a little.
Until then, I'm locked and loaded.

 

[jtexas]

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( and don't give that cr$p that not all muslums are bad. I'm done with the PC cr$p)

Some of you would probablly have them over for dinner and evening prayers.

I'm guessing by your signature that you claim to be a Christian. What do you think Jesus would have you do?

Just know that you don't represent Christians.

And let's hope that you don't pass your bigotry on to another generation.

 

[Plainsman]

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( and don't give that cr$p that not all muslums are bad. I'm done with the PC cr$p)

Some of you would probablly have them over for dinner and evening prayers.

I'm guessing by your signature that you claim to be a Christian. What do you think Jesus would have you do?

Just know that you don't represent Christians.

And let's hope that you don't pass your bigotry on to another generation.

You give UBL a hug for me, OK.

Edit: And don't assume, you know the saying about assuming don't you?

So I guess if Jesus wouldn't do it, I guess that no Christians should be in the military as the might have to kill?

And what I pass on is in no way ANY concern of yours.

 

[Plainsman]

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Al Qaeda threat over pope speech:

From the guys some here seem to love

 

[jtexas]

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You are reminding others that Jesus Christ died for your soul; it seemed pretty clear that you believed it yourself. But, since I was wrong, please accept my sincere apology for calling you a Christian, I meant no offense.

I wouldn't want to make any other unfair assumptions, so how bout I just ask, what does this mean: "You give UBL a hug for me, OK."

 

[crunch]

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You are reminding others that Jesus Christ died for your soul; it seemed pretty clear that you believed it yourself. But, since I was wrong, please accept my sincere apology for calling you a Christian, I meant no offense.

I wouldn't want to make any other unfair assumptions, so how bout I just ask, what does this mean: "You give UBL a hug for me, OK."

I think he means, the way you defend OBL he must be a good buddy of yours.... looks that way to me too.

 

[Plainsman]

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You are reminding others that Jesus Christ died for your soul; it seemed pretty clear that you believed it yourself. But, since I was wrong, please accept my sincere apology for calling you a Christian, I meant no offense.

I wouldn't want to make any other unfair assumptions, so how bout I just ask, what does this mean: "You give UBL a hug for me, OK."

I think he means, the way you defend OBL he must be a good buddy of yours.... looks that way to me too.

Bingo!

 

[jtexas]

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Pretty nasty thing to say about somebody.

You make that assumption when I assert that "All muslims should not be judged on the actions of a few"?

 

[POINTER94]

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While there are some who find comfort in putting words and intentions into the Popes mouth, he has clearly shown and enunciated his belief in Nostra Aetate. It applies here in particular, as he has supported this doctrine for decades, since Vatican II. He served as the theological council during the drafting of the document.

5. We cannot truly call on God, the Father of all, if we refuse to treat in a brotherly way any man, created as he is in the image of God. Man's relation to God the Father and his relation to men his brothers are so linked together that Scripture says: "He who does not love does not know God" (1 John 4:8 ).

No foundation therefore remains for any theory or practice that leads to discrimination between man and man or people and people, so far as their human dignity and the rights flowing from it are concerned.

The Church reproves, as foreign to the mind of Christ, any discrimination against men or harassment of them because of their race, color, condition of life, or religion. On the contrary, following in the footsteps of the holy Apostles Peter and Paul, this sacred synod ardently implores the Christian faithful to "maintain good fellowship among the nations" (1 Peter 2:12), and, if possible, to live for their part in peace with all men,(14) so that they may truly be sons of the Father who is in heaven.(15)


http://www.vatican.va/archive/hist_...ts/vat-ii_decl_19651028_nostra-aetate_en.html


Many of you clearly don't understand the man, the religion, or the mission of the Catholic church. And anyone who knows or takes the time to understand the Holy Fathers history or scholarly education know his intentions are pure. Any other interpretation has its roots in something other than reality. Or there is an agenda not grounded in fact.

 

[Mark42]

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Nice folks these Muslims. They have such a cheery, uplifting and encouraging message for the world:

"The group said Muslims would be victorious and addressed the pope as "the worshipper of the cross" saying "you and the West are doomed as you can see from the defeat in Iraq, Afghanistan, Chechnya and elsewhere. ... We will break up the cross, spill the liquor and impose head tax, then the only thing acceptable is a conversion (to Islam) or (killed by) the sword."

Maybe all Muslims believe this, maybe not. But until I hear and see Mulsims world wide stand up and condemn these all too common radical views, I will continue to belive the old addage that "silence is consent" and they all really do support those radical beliefs .

 

[Haut Medoc]

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:devil:

 

[jtexas]

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I have a neighbor of apparent Middle-Eastern extraction. As a loyal American, I don't know whether to report 'em to Department of Homeland Security for a year of torture in Syria, or just go next door and cap 'em all myself. Please advise.

 

[crunch]

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Cap'um... you can't be too careful 8)

 

[Mark42]

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I have a neighbor of apparent Middle-Eastern extraction. As a loyal American, I don't know whether to report 'em to Department of Homeland Security for a year of torture in Syria, or just go next door and cap 'em all myself. Please advise.

Best bet is to put him in some sort of prison and/or holding facility until we can get this all sorted out. Bustin a few caps in his butt is a good second choice and something he will fully understand, being Muslim and wanting to kill all of us and all that stuff --- . :devil:d:devil: