ID needed to vote

Plainsman

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Floor Situation

The House considered H.R. 4844, pursuant to a rule, on Wednesday, September 20, 2006. The bill passed by a recorded vote of 228-196 (Roll no. 459)

On Tuesday, September 19, 2006, the Rules Committee granted a closed rule that:

Provides one hour of debate in the House equally divided and controlled by the Chairman and the Ranking Minority Member of the Committee on House Administration.
Waives all points of order against consideration of the bill.
Provides that the amendment in the nature of a substitute as reported by the Committee on House Administration shall be considered as adopted.
Provides one motion to recommit with or without instructions.
Summary

H.R. 4844 amends the National Voter Registration Act of 1993 and requires that every individual who wishes to vote in the 2008 federal elections must present a photo ID to be allowed to cast a ballot. Effective in the year 2010, voters will be required to provide a photo ID that could not have been obtained without proof of citizenship to be allowed to cast a ballot.

Beginning in 2008, voters who arrive at polling stations without the required ID, will be given a provisional ballot and 48 hours to present a qualifying ID, and people voting by mail must include a photocopy of photo ID. States are also required to set up programs to distribute the IDs and must provide them at no cost to indigent voters. The cost for the program will be reimbursed by the federal government.

Background

National Voter Registration Act of 1993 requires each State to establish Federal election voter registration procedures byapplication made simultaneously with a driver's license application, mail, and application in person at a designated Federal, State, or nongovernmental office, or at the applicant's residential registration site in accordance with State law.

The bill declares that this Act does not apply to any State that has no voter registration requirement with respect to elections for Federal office and/or in which voters may register at the polling place at the time of a general election for Federal office.

The National Voter Registration Act of 1993 passed the House on February 4, 1993, by a recorded vote 259 - 160 (Roll no. 26)

Legislative History

H.R. 4844 was introduced by Rep. Hyde (IL) on March 2, 2006. The bill was ordered to be reported as amended from the House Administration Committee, by a vote of 4-3, on September 14, 2006.

The house voted 228 -196 on this resolution today.

I agree with is that a photo ID should be required to vote. People need photo IDs to board planes, buy alcohol or cash checks.

As if the dems say, it could hurt minorities, the poor and the elderly, how do they cash their checks (pay or social programs) or use air travel?
 
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AZ had that ID rule in place last week, for the primaries.

No issues at all.
 

Boomyal

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The Dems will fight tooth and nail to derail this one. Until vote by mail, I always had to show ID when voting at the polls. Seems like we always cast out that which was hard learned years before.
 

Haut Medoc

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I agree with the ID part....
I disagree with absentee or mail in ballots....PERIOD!......JK
 
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Haut,

Absentee ballots are a fact of life. We are a mobile society.

I would agree that presenting an ID (on file) should be a "qualifier" for getting an absentee ballot.

If the government would get its act together, a national voting registration should be an easy do. However, we give voter cards/drivers licenses to people using the names of known terrorists. That ought to scare the he!! out of all of us.
 

Boomyal

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Haut said:
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I disagree with absentee or mail in ballots....PERIOD!......JK

Finally, something that Citizen Haut and I could agree on. Mobile society or not, I think you should have to go to the polls to vote and if you cannot take the time to do that you should forfeit your franchise to vote.

On the ID issue, if the people running the polls don't recognize you, you should have to show ID!!!!!

All these shortcuts in voting were conceived by the left because they felt the it would get more unter meunch to the polls. And they are the ones that will vote to line their own pockets via the liberal giveaways.
 

Plainsman

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Haut said:
I agree with the ID part....
I disagree with absentee or mail in ballots....PERIOD!......JK

Should ther be an exception to service memebrs? I would hope so.
 
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Should there be an exception to service memebrs? I would hope so.

My point exactly. One party did not see our Service Men and Women as important, in the 2K election. They did everything to bar those votes from being counted. Thank goodness they lost that court battle.

I do not want a system where some "Good ole boy/gal" lets you vote just because he/she recognizes you. That's a system ripe for corruption. Does anyone recall the name: "Kingfish"?
 

ob

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.I do not want a system where some "Good ole boy/gal" lets you vote just because he/she recognizes you. That's a system ripe for corruption. Does anyone recall the name: "Kingfish"?

I agree with that .No I.D ,no vote.No way to police the buddy system.
 

Haut Medoc

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Frankly, I thought it would be a given for military personnel at post, out of country votes should be counted, most definitely....
Consider my previous post qualified.....JK
 

Plainsman

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Haut said:
Frankly, I thought it would be a given for military personnel at post, out of country votes should be counted, most definitely....
Consider my previous post qualified.....JK

My God we agree on something!! I'll buy the drink!8)8)
 
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Haut,

Unfortunately it wasn't and ISN'T a given that our service persons votes are counted.

One party says-YES, one party says-NO.

When, and if, a NEW party takes over in '07' the service persons vote will become null and void. I find that a national shame.
 

POINTER94

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This is just common sense.

Republicans patting themselves on the back. Democrats calling it a poll tax. Talk about a bunch of idiots. One side thinking we should give them credit for breathing the other side never ceases to amaze me.
 

PW2

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What's a fake ID cost anymore? $10. $25 ?

It discriminates against poor cheaters, as opposed to more affluent cheaters.
 

Gone

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That's a real stretch, PW. Is that how the Dems do it in da UP? I didn't think that Wayne County had any influence on the outstate?

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I don't really have a problem with the ID thing, although I do think, without untamperable ID cards, it's less than effective.
I do see lots of possible abuses when some polling place volunteer gets to decide whether my vote should count or not count.
I would rather see them spend the time and money getting uniform voting machines in place so that we have uniform accurate voting tallies in all voting districts, regardless of the affluence of one district or another.

If we could get a fair and accurate count of all those that are eligible and wish to vote, with some semblance of fairness in the process, I'd be happy. However, IMO, this is all about gaining some sort of advantage by one side or another, as opposed to being fair or accurate.
 

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PW2 said:
IIf we could get a fair and accurate count of all those that are eligible and wish to vote, with some semblance of fairness in the process, I'd be happy. However, IMO, this is all about gaining some sort of advantage by one side or another, as opposed to being fair or accurate.

Well ,if they want their vote counted ,then they'll have to transport their behinds to a voting poll.Hopefully with i.d.What exactly isn't fair or accurate?The fact that the person voting can't negotiate a simple voting ballot?Are you having trouble with yours?Seems all the ones that were complaining in the other two elections were voting Dem.Is that like a huge coincidence?If a Dem. president gets elected,will you hear the cries from the GOP for a recount and feel their pain?8)
 

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I'd still like and answer to this:

As if the dems say, it could hurt minorities, the poor and the elderly, how do they cash their checks (pay or social programs) or use air travel?
 

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EricKems said:
I'd still like and answer to this:

As if the dems say, it could hurt minorities, the poor and the elderly, how do they cash their checks (pay or social programs) or use air travel?

You haven't heard? It's pure pandimonium.8)
 
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