Will Mr. Lincoln be right?

[mscher]

Read this quote from an Abraham Lincoln speech (the one that is no longer re-recited daily at Disneyland) and check out this link for an growing 9/11 conspiricy movment. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loose_Change_(video)

"At what point shall we expect the approach of danger? By what means shall we fortify against it? Shall we expect some trans-Atlantic military giant to step the ocean and crush us in a blow? Never. All the armies of Europe, Asia, and Africa combined could not, by force, take a drink from the Ohio or make a track on the Blue Ridge in a trial of a thousand years. At what point, then, is the approach of danger to be expected?

"I answer that if it ever reach us, it must spring from amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we ourselves must be the authors and finishers. As a nation of free men, we must live through all times, or die by suicide.

Whether there really is a looming government conspiricy or if a wacko group that can spread lies to gain a huge following and thus create anarchy,

We as Americans will have to perservere to esnure his words do not come true.

 

[stevieray]

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Next thing you know, some underground group will appear with a theory that the govt steered Katrina right into New Orleans so corrupt politicians could suck up all the relief money.

Ha ha ha ha....... heyyyyyyy waaaaait a minute.....

 

[Bondo]

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'ell,............

Isn't that the Game Plan of the Democrats/ Liberals Now.........

Open Borders,..........
And,......
When you're Bombed by an Arab,.......
You Can't call him an Arab.........

Political Correctness,....... Ya Can't Racially Profile 'em ya know..........

 

[kenimpzoom]

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Political correctness and the media will be the downfall of the USA.

There is no army that can defeat us.

Other global economies have a good chance if we are not careful.

Ken

 

[funjumper]

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My favorite Lincoln quote applies to Halliburton, et al.

"Worse than traitors in arms are the men who pretend loyalty to the flag, feast and fatten on the misfortunes of the Nation while patriotic blood is crimsoning the plains of the South and their countrymen moldering the dust."

Change the word "south" to Iraq and it fits well in this day and age.

Ken writes "Political correctness and the media will be the downfall of the USA."

Especially the mainstream, right wing media like Faux, ABC, CBS, et al.

http ://http://mediamatters.org/

does an excellent job of documenting the lies and factual mis-statements presented in the media.

"Liberal Media" is a pathetic lie perpetrated on the ignorant. All reputable studies have shown that the media is not liberally biased.

Rush Scumbag and his ilk all HATE the site. They call it a "smear" site. I guess in the right wing world being called to account for accuracy is a smear. If you lie or have lied, MM has the goods on you. If you say that you said something, or asked something, MM has the facts.

Just the facts, ma'am. That's all, folks.

Scumbag and his ilk hate being held accountable for what they say or have said. The truth is what they tell you today... not what they said before.

 

[Boomyal]

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Next thing you know, some underground group will appear with a theory that the govt steered Katrina right into New Orleans so corrupt politicians could suck up all the relief money.

Ha ha ha ha....... heyyyyyyy waaaaait a minute.....

Well the critically thinking, progressive rolmops, PWs and Blu Lunches [colour=red](EDIT: and funjumpers)[/colour] of the country still don't get it. They continue to cleave to the party that has done that and much more.:/

 

[mrbscott19]

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Political threads just aren't worth reading until you enlighten us on the evilness of us caring and compassionate traitors to the American way of life Boomy....we can't all go on what our gut says like the Prez, thats why we have brains.

And for the record I don't any of those people mentioned cling to a party.....its just that its very very difficult to support the repubs right now if you have a shred of decency in you.

I'm also offended that I wasn't included in your list. You forgotten about me already?

 

[Boomyal]

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Consider yourself included mrbscott. I thought about including you but I hadn't seen anything of you lately.

Actually I really thought that you'd be embarassed to be included in the party of James Carville! (not)

 

[Plainsman]

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"its just that its very very difficult to support the repubs right now if you have a shred of decency in you."

So if I understand you right, it's ok to support cut and run, come back to the US and wait for another attack?

If we keep up all this PC stuff (compassionate traitors to the American way of life), it will happen from within.

It's time to call a spade a spade and deal with a rodent the way it should be dealt with or we will die from within.

 

[POINTER94]

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It takes guts to break a few eggs to make a cake. Some people are more concerned with the shells.

Here's a quote:

"It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."

Can you imagine what Teddy would have thought of todays modern politician?

 

[Boomyal]

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Deaf ears Pointer. It does not dovetail with their agenda!

 

[kenimpzoom]

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funjumper, do you even have clue as to the resaon why Halliburton is in Iraq?

Dont mean to offend, but by your statements you seem to not understand their purpose.

FYI, it is to actually save the military money cooking and cleaning, as opposed to having enlisted solidiers do that.

I would rather have the solidiers out fighting.

Ken

 

[kenimpzoom]

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Open border policy and sanctuary cities are also one possible source of downfall.

Ken

 

[PW2]

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"Yawn..."

 

[Haut Medoc]

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Teddy would have said "W' is a dummy!

 

[woodrat]

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funjumper, do you even have clue as to the resaon why Halliburton is in Iraq?

Actually, like every other for-profit corporation on the planet, Halliburton's sole reason for existing is to make the maximum profit for its shareholders, by whatever means are possible. Period.

 

[BoatBuoy]

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FYI, it is to actually save the military money cooking and cleaning, as opposed to having enlisted solidiers do that.

You mean Haliburton found staffing that was paid less than enlisten men and willing to go to Iraq? Mexicans maybe? After the managers and executives and shareholders are paid, I don't think there'd be enough left for even them.

 

[mrbscott19]

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"its just that its very very difficult to support the repubs right now if you have a shred of decency in you."

So if I understand you right, it's ok to support cut and run, come back to the US and wait for another attack?

If we keep up all this PC stuff (compassionate traitors to the American way of life), it will happen from within.

It's time to call a spade a spade and deal with a rodent the way it should be dealt with or we will die from within.

Cut and run.....sounds like a talking point to me. lol Have anything original to say? Tell the people of Madrid and London that we're making the world a safer place. Yeah we haven't been attacked again in the US, but the rest of the world is paying a nice price for our security. If you think they won't eventually get back to us then you are a fool's fool, but I think you know that they will.

How about admitting that we were WRONG when it came to Iraq and the fact that us being there is making the world less safe? Is that a good reason? Let's go back into Afghanistan and wipe out the Taliban for good instead of the pathetic half-**sed job we did there.

And I actually agree with you about the PC crap going on there(I was talking about libs in general, not Iraq when I made the compassionate traitor remark, since Boomy thinks every problem since the stoneage is the libs fault), but guess what? Rummy is in charge of the military, not us citizens. The military started fighting a PC war from the start so take it up with him, not me.

Can we win in Iraq? Yes, but it involves not being PC with regards to our military might. Well we've been fightng a PC war from the start so I have no reason to believe that will change. And until that changes, we have 2 options. Keep getting punched in the face over and over until the insurgents are too tired to do it anymore, or get out of the way. if we were going to win in Iraq it would have happened by now. And on that note, can you define what it will take to "win" in Iraq and give an honest guess as to the chances we have of that actually happening?

 

[mrbscott19]

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It takes guts to break a few eggs to make a cake. Some people are more concerned with the shells.

Now if we could just get W to attend a cooking class! :}

 

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the rain in spain falls mainly on the plain.