Quick question for bondo......

tommays

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Re: Quick question for bondo......

Well lets not confuse ethylene glycol WITH propylene glycol

I go to work everyday and worry that my water samples will come out with to many parts per billion of something we dont even use

we just make soap :) you would think we were working with nuke waste

It happpens all the time we came out with a high silver level last time WTF

So i find it hard to go home and use anything or do anything that would cause a problem at work

life is just more simple that way :)


Tommays
 

mkpj1

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Re: Quick question for bondo......

Interesting topic,

I'm admittling green when it comes to Marine engines albeit these are just GM engines or at least the one I have is.

No confusion Tommays. I meant ethylene. don't get me wrong. It's toxic stuff straight out of the pipe even at 50/50. People that just blow it out with disregard should be arrested. If treated like i suggested above it's fine. Check the link if believe otherwise.

I've dealt wih beefing up auto motors as a hobby for some time. Two things kill cast iron engines. Design flaws and corrosion. Period. Well, stupidity too. I have bored out oil gallies to avoid oil stavation to the heads and opened cooling passages for increased flow to avoid meltdown. All because poor casting..design?

Other problem is corrosion. Cast iron is unique as it corrodes in sheets that can trap moisture and accelerate the process creating holes. The crap I've seen in coolant pasages! Many, almost completely clogged. That sheeting action can be seen in ziggy's photo's above. I believe Don and Bondo that if you follow certain precautions you would be able to avoid freeze damage...if you know what you are doing....and the engine is level....
I know you will not avoid corrosion. Look at it this way, I have an old 68 F100. I use it to haul mulch and such. Some of the excess mulch always gets trapped at the front of the box in the crack. Then it rains and gets all wet. What do you think happens to the steel there? Is it worse when it's submerged after a big rain or after the water washes away and O2 gets to it? Mulch keeps it nice and moist. Go to the junk yard and look at all the old truck boxes you want. Fail the same place. No different in the engine and geez it's open to sand and silt and all kinds a crap. Can you say build up. I thnk I will pass on letting it air out. More like flush it out and protect it.

Honestly, Packerman, if you can afford a 2006 boat, you can afford a professional winterization which would protect your asset and allow you time with your son. No worries!
 

Tail_Gunner

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Re: Quick question for bondo......

mkpj1 said:
Here you go: http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/tfacts96.html

Not familiar with 1/2 time? Propably in a vacuum? I am familiar with Half-life which, I think, only pertains to things like medicine and radioactive isotopes? So a week 1/2 time is 3.5 days,....in pure form???

Look, Like I said, Don't put your boat in the water if you are worried about what I suggest above. No BS!


:love: Umm your right no such thing as 1/2 time but half life is very pertinent, before you pester Don with your nagging id suggest you go find that answer...... Ahh yes then understand the ramifications of it's exposure to the enviroment.

There are very few professional's like this guy giving his............. hmm well maybe her's..........:'( advise so freely ..........maybe you ought to just follow it ....... or just start posting yur own.......:love:


Opps....... dam neat forgot Bond-o........:devil: Is that a Bond-o with him or a her............ Ayuh ... hehe wild guess here women cant communicate that clearly opps that clear uhhhh ok that simple.... ya think...:love:
 

mkpj1

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Re: Quick question for bondo......

You boat guys are so sensitive. Tail, I did offer my advice and got attacked for being full of crap? I fired back with they are full of crap and provided facts at your request?

So is that all you got?? Go look up half life or something? Ramifications of AF? I did and gave it to you? Why don't you go lok up the ramifications of your boat on the water? A flooded carb? What's worse Tail, I mean if you going to start with AF may as well look at gas and oil?

I think i gave Packerman the best advice? He has a new boat under warranty, why F with it and void the warranty? Epecially when your so unsure? No disrespect packerman. I would say the same thing to my best friend.

Sorry about your friends panties Tail. I really doubt Don and Bondo give a crap what i think and I'm sure they will be around long after I'm gone. Don't worry, I'm done and won't pester you anymore. BIG KISS, mwwha
 

Reel Poor

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Re: Quick question for bondo......

mkpj1 said:
Don't worry, I'm done and won't pester you anymore. BIG KISS, mwwha

One quick question mkpj1, what does the first "w" stand for ?

 

QC

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Re: Quick question for bondo......

LMAO@RP

Hey, mkpj1, there's a Danforth anchor thread over in Boats that you might enjoy . . .
 

mkpj1

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Oh No! What do you think it means? LOL....

It was really just a sarcastic sound effect.

when my daughter was three she would blow me a kiss like Marylin Monroe and Say "Big Kiss Daddy" she would make a sound effect that sounded like "MMWHA" LOL.

Sorry Man! I'm not good at these abreviations. My 15 yo son thinks it a joke I can't text message?

I'll check it out QC. This forum stuff is like good potatoe chips! Great info!

Just to clarify, I really appreciate Don's time and effort!
 

Reel Poor

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Re: Quick question for bondo......

mkpj1 said:
It was really just a sarcastic sound effect.

when my daughter was three she would blow me a kiss like Marylin Monroe and Say "Big Kiss Daddy" she would make a sound effect that sounded like "MMWHA" LOL.

Sorry Man! I'm not good at these abreviations. My 15 yo son thinks it a joke I can't text message?

Oh No! What do you think it means? LOL....

Welllllll.......All I could think of was "my (wrinkled/wigglin/wooly) white honky azz". Sorry for the misinterpretation.
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Thanks for the clarification.

 

QC

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Re: Quick question for bondo......

I was pretty sure it was weenie . . . I take back my LMAO and my sarcastic Danforth suggestion. Carry on . . .
 

packerman

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Re: Quick question for bondo......

You know guys...... this whole thing is my fault to even to have gotten it started. First off, I appreciate the fact any of you took "your time" and shared your "thoughts and knowledge" with me, in the first place, no matter what you seem to think of each others advice. I'll look at it all and appreciate your thoughts, make my decision, and go with it. It's all solid advice!!! I'm probably overthinking this. Advice given is gave not knowing the background of the person asking it, and probably needs to be answered as so. First, I've spent a ton of time with my son, so much, I don't have much time for other things. Second, I could probably get a Baja if I wanted but I'm not the type to want to travel like a pack of hyennas, w/that look at me, traveling up river as fast and noisy as possible attitude. I doubt I will offend any of their yuppy asses(Upper Mississippi River group), as I doubt they've probably ever looked on a sight like this.... everything is serviced I'm sure. They could charge their dumb asses triple and they don't know enough about boats to do anything about it anyway. That said, at almost $100/hr., I think that's a little too much, cause they aren't doctors and lawyers doing this. They should be at a rate around double the mechanic. So it's more so, just a matter of principle for me and I can and will do it. Next to last, I've been doing it by the book for the last 15 years with my 3.0 w/AF w/o any problems. I seen this dry method mentioned and thougth it'd be great not to have to screw w/AF. The dry way just seems too simple to not be "the way it's done everywhere", so of course, I've got to wonder, why isn't it???? I'm looking past the obvious in poking out the holes and make sure to be getting the water out, as there must be something else that people do, to screw up this simple procedure and freeze/break something. And of course I am wondering if there are spots in the engine, etc., that could cause this, even though it's done right. I should have titled this: Why doesn't everyone winterize their boats dry and what is it they do wrong, when they screw it up and freeze/break something? instead of: a quick question for bond-o, which after I thought about it, I should have never addressed a question to begin with. Maybe I've taken something easy and tried to make it hard. Maybe MerCruiser reccomends AF because they don't know who might attempt it. Lastly, maybe it's time to put this one to rest...... and my next trip back around my boat, I'm tilting the front up a smidgion, putting the plugs in very loose and leaving it the way it is (dry) as I think I did it that way last year and it worked just fine. Next year I'll chop off the top and my 35 gal. barrel and get some plastic sheeting, attach to barrel, trim to match up with the back of the boat to catch AF, and have myself piece of mind for the next 11 years til it's time to move by the ocean someplace warm get a sailboat!!!! And the best thing would have been for me to take it in and spend some of my moldy money, and just had it done. Thank you all for your thoughts, info and time!!!!
 

mkpj1

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Re: Quick question for bondo......

Hey Packman,

No offense with the son thing Could just as well been your family or bottle of good aged whiskey. whatever.

One other thing and I promise i will shut my MMWHA (my massive wiggling white honkey azz) how about that RP? I like it!

When I AF'ed it I wanted to be sure i had AF in so i left the plug out until I saw it coming out. I corked the bilge and sucked out the access with a shop vac then disposed of it. Clean the bilge with favorite cleaner. Did the same with the flush. will do the same with before i start it in the spring. Can save the AF for next year. screen it for excess crap.

Maybe you idea would be good for the enviromentalist though for when they fire it and all the carcinogens in the foggig oil burn out in the exhaust??? (I just couldn't friggen help it!) I'm done, I promise!
 
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