Happy terrorists worldwide!

[crunch]

Re: Happy terrorists worldwide!

Here's a sobering statistic: 40 percent of Americans are counting on the lottery, sweepstakes, getting married, or an inheritance to fund their retirement, according to Walter Updegrave, author of We're Not In Kansas Anymore: Strategies for Retiring Rich in a Totally Changed World.

http://www.creativepro.com/story/feature/23068.html

Three in ten Americans think their best chance to end up with at least half a million dollars in their lifetime is to win a lottery or sweepstakes, according to a recent poll by the Consumer Federation of America. Other studies show that 16 percent of Americans are counting on the lottery to pay for their retirement.

http://www.hawaii.rr.com/business/finance/cliff_robello/2002-06_amtsfassumptions.htm

That was exhausting, took me all of 2 minutes.

 

[crunch]

Re: Happy terrorists worldwide!

DWJ,

"20% of all Americans are counting on the lottery as their retirement plan"

Did you research that or was I correct when I thought I heard the popping noise when you pulled that one out.

BTW, I think you owe DWJ another apology, but I'm not holding my breath.

 

[DJ]

Re: Happy terrorists worldwide!

Wait and see what happens when the Chinese, a people with long-range goals, outstrip the U. S. in it's military mass. They've been on their way to that for some time now and I fear the Dems will "cut and run", reduce the military again, spend our way into a major deficit and generally emasculate the good old US of A.
AGAIN!

Absolutely correct.

But, who cares? What's on TV? Duh-Doh!

 

[CJY]

Re: Happy terrorists worldwide!

"BTW, I think you owe DWJ another apology, but I'm not holding my breath."

Why, because I disagree. You are 12, right? You listed something that is not exclusive to lottery. Show me where 20% of Americans rely on the lottery for retirement. Not some columnist either, show me researched data. You should know by now that anybody can own a .com cite and say whatever they want.

However, even if I conceed such a statistic, I suppose it could be true. After all, W is the Prez and I hear that loud sucking noise regularly of jobs leaving the states.

 

[txswinner]

Re: Happy terrorists worldwide!

This is real crap and cut and run is a good lead for your boy Rummy Mr. brave soldier leader himself. I wish they would give him a gun and send him to Iraq. He would poop his pants as he is a life long Chickenhawk who has not "Cut and Run" and the country is better with him gone.

 

[crunch]

Re: Happy terrorists worldwide!

This is real crap and cut and run is a good lead for your boy Rummy Mr. brave soldier leader himself. I wish they would give him a gun and send him to Iraq. He would poop his pants as he is a life long Chickenhawk who has not "Cut and Run" and the country is better with him gone.

Txswinner said

“crunch you are out of your mind. Your statements are just not true.”

Want to point out what I'm out of my mind about?

 

[txswinner]

Re: Happy terrorists worldwide!

Cry baby cry. Wiping out the terrorist in Iraq was going to stop the chinese. Wow.

BRING HOME THE TROOPS

 

[crunch]

Re: Happy terrorists worldwide!

Cry baby cry. Wiping out the terrorist in Iraq was going to stop the chinese. Wow.

BRING HOME THE TROOPS

Txswinner said

“crunch you are out of your mind. Your statements are just not true.”

Want to point out what I'm out of my mind about?

 

[waterinthefuel]

Re: Happy terrorists worldwide!

Take a look at how Europe is interpreting the elections. The fact that the democraps won has them jumping for joy, that we will pull out of Iraq.

Funny the dems say they are for the country, but not only the republicans don't believe it, neither does most of Western Europe! LOL

 

[crunch]

Re: Happy terrorists worldwide!

The speaker on the tape vows that al Qaeda in Iraq will not stop its jihad "until we sit under the olive trees in Rumiya after we blow up the wicked house known as the White House." He says the first phase of the jihad is now over, and that the next phase -- building an Islamic nation -- has begun.

Read the whole article, they do see the win of the Democrats as a win for them.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/11/10/iraq.main/index.html

 

[crunch]

Re: Happy terrorists worldwide!

Bump

 

[Haut Medoc]

Re: Happy terrorists worldwide!


Funny the dems say they are for the country, but not only the republicans don't believe it, neither does most of Western Europe! LOL

We are there for what country?
Since when did western Europe start caring again what we believe, anyway......
Except for Tony Bush?

 

[CJY]

Re: Happy terrorists worldwide!

Cry baby cry. Wiping out the terrorist in Iraq was going to stop the chinese. Wow.

BRING HOME THE TROOPS

Txswinner said

“crunch you are out of your mind. Your statements are just not true.”

Want to point out what I'm out of my mind about?

Crunch, the quotes below are yours.


I'm thinking an IED proof car in every driveway might become the newest rage in the coming years.

Oregon is a very Liberal State. We pass laws that allow children to basically run their parents lives, or ruin them.

One of those laws are that you can't even raise your voice, let alone your hand to your children without it being considered abuse... you can go to jail for that.

At the same time you are required to keep your child in school. If your child starts skipping school they warn you... if it continues they will jail you.

The schools teach the children both of the above rules... can you guess what the result is?

I believe that txs is not buying these statements. Without backing, this is nothing more than BS that anyone can say.

As far as schools teaching children as you have stated above. I'm not buying it. Schools / teachers have a legal obligation to report any suspected abuse to the state. It is not an option. Teachers are taught to not try and determine abuse. It's not their job, they report it, the state determines if there is sbuse. Teachers lose their teaching credentials for ignoring abuse.

http://www.ode.state.or.us/policy/state/laws/childabuse/

It makes no mention of yelling at a child in the above link, except in the case you are "threatening harm to a child, which means subjecting a child to a substantial risk of harm to the child's health or welfare." In which case, it is against the law. Probably not only in Oregon either. It's called mental abuse. Say what you want about it, it does serious harm to children and their ability to cope with the real world.

Now, I have shown and backed many of your statements to be untrue as txswinner suggested. Unless you can show some evidence for the need of an "IED proof car in every driveway" in "Oregon," I would have to agree with txs on this. Every statement I pointed out, on this thread alone, has been misrepresented unless you can show otherwise.

I yelled at my child while in Oregon, nothing happened to me. (this is personal experience and not here say)

 

[crunch]

Re: Happy terrorists worldwide!

CJY, was any of this addressed to you? What part of Oregon do you live in?

 

[12Footer]

Re: Happy terrorists worldwide!

"I believe that the first order of business when we reorganize after the first of the year is congressional oversight."

AP: Alqueda in Iraq claims it's "winning this war".. hey wait a sec -- I thought there WERE no terrorists in Iraq, and Bush just wants to murder American soldiers! What gives here?!

DM:Al queda internet audio clip boasts of 12,000 terror troops



Al reuters:Al queda gloats over Rumsfeld saga

A heads-up to my liberal friends.... The enemy (mine at least) are dancing in the streets. God, have mercy on those still in harm's way. It's going to be ugly.

 

[CJY]

Re: Happy terrorists worldwide!

"CJY, was any of this addressed to you? What part of Oregon do you live in?"


What? Neither of those questions are worthy of a response. First, they are irrelevant, and second, the responses to both are so simple they go without being said.

 

[crunch]

Re: Happy terrorists worldwide!

Let me see if I can distill that down....

No it isn't any of your business, and yes, you were talking out your azz.

 

[CJY]

Re: Happy terrorists worldwide!

Well, I knew you would think you were calling a bluff.

Let me break it down for you as you obviously guessed what my response would have been. Below is what you said;

"CJY, was any of this addressed to you? What part of Oregon do you live in?"

No it was not addressed to me. However, this is a forum of which I am a member, as are you. You have zero right to try to restrict what I post and do not post to. So, don't attempt to pretend that you do. This is America, you know, the land where republicans try to shut down those they don't want to hear from. It does not and will never work. You appear to have forgotten why soldiers are dying for us. Or else, you simply don't care they die to protect our freedom of speech. How dare you, a free individual, free via the deaths of others, attempt to remove a freedom others give their lives for us to have. Very unpatriotic as well as pathetic.

Secondly, what does living in Oregon have to do with anything. Does that mean I don't know anything about Oregon. Well, the fact of the matter is, I did not pretend to. I posted the law, written by the state of Oregon, for you and others to see. I did not try to tell you what I believe or think regarding child abuse laws as you did. Had you understood the law in the state in which you live, we would not be having this discussion, would we?

The only other question relative to Oregon is one I did not try to guess or pretend to know the answer to. I gave you an opportunity to defend it. You could not.

You said;

"I'm thinking an IED proof car in every driveway might become the newest rage in the coming years."

When asked "where, in Iraq," you said "Oregon."

Well, as txs indicated, this is BS and you know it. I guess you were being overly dramatic in an attempt to make a point you have continually failed to support. You believe America is now less safe than a week ago. Believe it if you want, I don't care. It's nothing but hot air unless you can back your statement of Oregon being less safe today. We both know you can't.

So easy, it's not even fun arguing with you anymore. You said I spoke out of my azz. Well, tell me where I spoke anything but the truth. Again, you can't do it.

Did I "distill" it down enough for you?

 

[crunch]

Re: Happy terrorists worldwide!

As I said, this is none of your business. You have no more idea of what TX was talking about than I do, you are only guessing. I'll wait to see what he has to say.

The joke about the IED proof car was only that, you seem to be the only one not to get it and I'm sure that is not the issue here.

You might be right that TX was referring to my post about the laws here in Oregon, or you might not be, again, you were not involved until you stuck your nose in.

I know for a fact that the school district can have a parent jailed for their child’s truancy, they threatened me with that because my daughter was skipping with her older boy friend.

I know for a fact that a parent can be jailed for only raising their voice to their child. I spent 2 days and 2 nights in jail because my daughter, in retaliation for my refusing to let her date that 20 y/o boy had me arrested, (she was 15) on only her word over the phone for physical abuse. It took the 2 days and nights for my attorney to get her examined and me released.

Clear enough for you?

My sig doesn't change until I hear from TX, get over it.

 

[JasonJ]

Re: Happy terrorists worldwide!

"spend our way into a major deficit and generally emasculate the good old US of A."

Oh. My. God. Lets paint the picture here. We are in record deficit RIGHT NOW. Our military is over burdened RIGHT NOW. We would be unable to function militarily in an addition large scale operation RIGHT NOW. We are pretty much emasculated RIGHT NOW. Just what do you think would happen if North Korea rolled across the DMZ tomorrow. We would be unable to help our ally, South Korea. 2ID is but a mere speed bump. That is what we called ourselves when I was there. We knew the truth back then, and that truth is even more evident now.

The term Cut and Run is a simplistic overused term trumpeted by small minds. Pulling back, re-evaluating the objective, modifying the battle plan, and initiating that battle plan if what a proper militray function is. Doing the same crap over and over with little to no result is what you get when you let poor tacticians like Rumsfelt run the show. Anyone with three days worth of military experience knows this. Iraq is going to be in a civil war very soon, and we accomodated that by getting rid of Saddam. Don't get me wrong, he needed to go, but there is a time and a place. Now was not that time.

"Fight them over there so we don't fight them over here". Whatever. We are fighting insurgents in Iraq while the rest of the terrorists that are spread world wide are free to plan. Yes, we will have another attack, but it won't be the dems fault. It will be the poor planning that has distracted us from the worldwide picture. Right now we are the woman walking to her car, late at night, rummaging for her keys in her purse. She is so busy looking for the keys that she never sees or hears her attacker when he comes from behind. That is us. Now, if she had her keys in her hand and was alert when walking to the car, the would-be attacker would most likely move on to the next victim. That is what our country should be.

We must be vigilant. The war in Iraq is not vigilance, it is distraction.