storing new rebuilt motor in garage

[bobboater1]

no heat in damp garage. i have a new rebuilt crated 350 engine long block with no cover .oil valves timing cover..i am waiting to have local shop install motor in dec. jan.. any idea how to store motor..any worries. after the shop installs it i willwinterizes it
bob

 

[Flukinicehole]

Re: storing new rebuilt motor in garage

You should be able to just leave it like it is. If you want to be real safe just spray some MM oil into the cylinders.

 

[mkpj1]

Re: storing new rebuilt motor in garage

Welcome Bob,

I'm a newbie too. You need to give everyone all the info on the motor and boat including the drive. the experts will be able to help you better.

where did you get the Crate moter? I would ask them this question. That way if it breaks, and new motors do,.....they won't stick it to you cause you did something to it you weren't supposed to. In my experience, I would just leave it alone and it will be fine. After install, you will have to follow the winterization thread pinned at the top of this forum.

 

[Fishermark]

Re: storing new rebuilt motor in garage

Be sure to have a coating of oil and then slip a big trash bag over the entire engine. No problem.

 

[bobboater1]

Re: storing new rebuilt motor in garage

no outdrive on motor stored it away a waiting install soon. what type of oil . fog...wd 40 this garage is not that sealed...marine motor builder said it will be ok..but boater help is more inportant to me...
19 ft glastron carlson css 350 mag
bob/philly

 

[mkpj1]

Re: storing new rebuilt motor in garage

I just use regular unused motor oil to coat the motor. I would not.....I repeat.......WOULD NOT.....spray anything into the cylinders unless the builder or installer suggests it. You did not mention whether the motor is broken in yet. The rings need to seat on break in. Very important and some mystery oil sitting in the cylinder for 2 months could hinder this. Cause glazing and blow by. i use a little regular dino oil to assemble which would not cause a problem but anything else could be bad.

I still say....do whatever the builder and installer say and put it in writing. That way when something goes wrong they can't blame it on you and void any warranties. CYOA Baby!

 

[Bondo]

Re: storing new rebuilt motor in garage

If this is a Brand New Rebuild,.... It was assembled with assembley Lube,.....

It should be Fine for another month or 2......

I'd just Bag it like Fishermark says.....Wrap it in Plastic.....

 

[bobboater1]

Re: storing new rebuilt motor in garage

I WILL THANKS.

 

[RandyJ]

Re: storing new rebuilt motor in garage

I've had a few motors sit up for years with no problem. As long as it is put away with a good coat of oil and dust is kept out you should be fine. Keeping moisture away from polished surfaces that wear is most important. You don't want any rust to develop on things like crank throws, pulley's, that sort of thing. After a little break in give it a good oil change by draining the oil from the pan and replacing the filter. Alot of motors and transmissions have a magnet in the bottom of the pan to catch ferrous metal shavings from such things as rust.

 

[mkast]

Re: storing new rebuilt motor in garage

NASA did research with WD 40 years ago. They found out that after a period of time, WD 40 attracted moisture.
If the engine was assembled with clean engine oil and cam lube, just bag it. You might try the dessicant spark plugs.

 

[John_S]

Re: storing new rebuilt motor in garage

If you bag it, I'd check it after a few days to make sure it is not forming a vapor barrier and holding the moisture in. I pulled the heads and intake manifold on my 350 this fall. I oiled and greased all exposed metal surfaces. I laid a small silver tarp over the top of the engine, just to keep dirt out. After only one day, I rechecked it and found moisture built up on the top of block and bottom of the tarp, turning the oil/grease white in color. I wiped it off, and re-oiled/greased it. This time used a large clean towel to catch any debris. Re-checked a number of times over two weeks, but never found moisture build-up again.

 

[imported_rosco]

Re: storing new rebuilt motor in garage

sprey the whole thing down with crc or wd40. especially the cylinder walls, crank, rods and lifters.

wrap it up in plastic, a garbage bag will do.

there realy is no reason you cant go ahead and install the oil pump and oil pan and close up the bottom, but thats up to you. i have stored rebuilt short blocks for over a year at a time without a problem with just a good coating of crc.

 

[Olds Eddie]

Re: storing new rebuilt motor in garage

My NASCAR engine builder buddy always uses Marvel Mystery Oil on cylinder walls and bare metal surfaces. I suggested a newer product and he said that once he finds something that works he won't change without a good reason.I now do the same.

 

[Scaaty]

Re: storing new rebuilt motor in garage

NASA did research with WD 40 years ago. They found out that after a period of time, WD 40 attracted moisture..

Show some proof of this BS. I spray down with WD some dirtbikes of mine that sit in an open ended shed (no more room in the shop) all winter in rainy Washington. Little soap and water and like new in the sparing..
PS. going into my 47th year of riding and doing stuff like this, so its NOT rocket science. I have outboard blocks that sit OUTSIDE that get a healthy dose (I use the gallon size WD, it a squirt bottle) with zero problems
I ALSO took a few years back 4 clutch springs from a M/C and wired them to a piece of card board after washing them down in Mineral Spirits. Sprayed them down with Fogging oil, WD, Silicone, and Boeshield. Dunked in water, and then sat them outside, but out of the rain, for the winter. ZERO rust on Fog and WD. Rust on Silicone and I tossed the expensive Boecrap in the garbage after it was the first to rust.
On the motor, wipe the bores down in heavy engine oil or fogging oil (gee, wonder what the rest of up do with OUR motors when we fog for the winter?), spray WD on the rest, then toss a breathable tarp over it. Done

 

[bobboater1]

Re: storing new rebuilt motor in garage

scaaty
the motor is a long block with cly plugs it the spark plug area. i am trying to get local shop to install within 30 days then winterzize.. the deal i worked out with the builder if shop installs block i got a 2 yr watt. that pays shop to remove engine and pays them for a total of $3500 over 2 yrs cost me $300. this way in worse case i wont have to remove engine myselp. getting older..44..my idea is to get shop to check things out put engine in with my new waterpump. starter. and manifolds . and over the winter i will do all the little things i need so next season i can start early
thanks all
bob

 

[bobboater1]

Re: storing new rebuilt motor in garage

also my local merc dealer is family owned and the owner told me first week of dec. he will work it out with me. he's a really nice guy..the kind of people who you want to buy boats or parts from
bob

 

[Scaaty]

Re: storing new rebuilt motor in garage

Good deal!...(getting old..forgot the long block thing). The quicker you can get it up and running the better. The idea of it sitting in a damp place with uncoated cylinders not good....but I think you know that! Good luck!

 

[bobboater1]

Re: storing new rebuilt motor in garage

i will get it up fast as its winter here coming pa. if one shop wont do it (they will ) i will tow it somewhere else..i am tired of all the heavy bull work. done that most of my young life. not old but choose my projects more wisely now..my buddy said free the old engine org. owner sat 10 yrs i said heck with that why should i waste all my time and my friends, so for a little over 2k 350 mag rebuilt 2 yr watt. new manifolds and risers used oil pan and valve covers and new water pump..at least the basics will be solid
bob/philly

 

[Scaaty]

Re: storing new rebuilt motor in garage

tired of all the heavy bull work. done that most of my young life. not old

I hear ya...same way. Motors used to be light, now some wrenches are getting too heavy...... 8)

 

[mkast]

Re: storing new rebuilt motor in garage

Show some proof of this BS. I spray down with WD some dirtbikes of mine that sit in an open ended shed (no more room in the shop) all winter in rainy Washington. Little soap and water and like new in the sparing..
PS. going into my 47th year of riding and doing stuff like this, so its NOT rocket science. I have outboard blocks that sit OUTSIDE that get a healthy dose (I use the gallon size WD, it a squirt bottle) with zero problems
I ALSO took a few years back 4 clutch springs from a M/C and wired them to a piece of card board after washing them down in Mineral Spirits. Sprayed them down with Fogging oil, WD, Silicone, and Boeshield. Dunked in water, and then sat them outside, but out of the rain, for the winter. ZERO rust on Fog and WD. Rust on Silicone and I tossed the expensive Boecrap in the garbage after it was the first to rust.
On the motor, wipe the bores down in heavy engine oil or fogging oil (gee, wonder what the rest of up do with OUR motors when we fog for the winter?), spray WD on the rest, then toss a breathable tarp over it. Done

The original article I read was before the Internet existed.
Looked for two days, can't find it. I did find enough stuff to confirm that wd40 should only be used to clean a honing stone in use, or adhesive residue.
WD40 dries up. Then a gummy residue is left. That residue attracts dirt. Dirt attracts moisture.

http://www.eurekafluidfilm.com/about/testing.html
http://kendallandson.com/demos/default.htm
http://web.mit.edu/charvak/www/Science/Corrosion/corrosion.html
http://yarchive.net/gun/lubricants.html
http://www.cdegroot.com/cgi-bin/mirror/pweb.jps.net/~snowbum/chemicalsetc.htm
http://www.alaskaoutdoorjournal.com/Departments/Tips/rustoiltip11.html

I've analysed a similar product, and it was around 80%
kerosine, 10% acidless tallow oil, and 10% lubricating
oil light base gade - with some additional antioxidants
added to improve durability. When the composition of
WD-40 last came up in sci.chem, I wasn't sure if it was a
water displacing solvent only, but subsequently there
has been a long discussion about the film left behind in
some rec.* groups - which is why it should not be used as a lubricant, the film is only a temporary corrosion protective
layer.


Quite a few web sites with the same results. Now you'll say that the sites are biased, they're trying to sell there product. I did find a lot of cycle sites stating not to use wd40 on bike chains because it isn't compatible with the orings in the chain. Hey, if your happy at a $1.50 a can no problem. I've found other products that work better, they cost a little more. But, then again I don't use much duct tape either.