1985 Johnson 140hp VRO system

kenmyfam

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I have the above outboard and it is currently running just fine. Many people have advised me to get rid of the VRO system and to run it on a fuel / oil mix in the tank. What are everyones thoughts on this ? and if it is a "get rid of the VRO" then what is the best way to go about it ?
Thank You to anyone that can give me some input.
 

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Re: 1985 Johnson 140hp VRO system

Take a look at the excellent articles on VRO options in the Engine FAQs, Ken.

Whys, why nots and hows are there.
 

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Re: 1985 Johnson 140hp VRO system

Thanks for pointing me in the correct direction. I will head over and rake a look.
 

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Re: 1985 Johnson 140hp VRO system

the whole vro pump thing

it is all about the type of oil u use, the reason is because some oil builds up more carbon deposits, causing a lack of flow and power head failure
 

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Re: 1985 Johnson 140hp VRO system

So what would be a good oil to use ??
 

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Re: 1985 Johnson 140hp VRO system

not any of the cheapy stuff u see on sale
the manufactures oils are great, but buy the upper end stuff

i not going to put names up here u can e-mail me for them if u want
 

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Re: 1985 Johnson 140hp VRO system

Thanks for that. All I have been using are the "top notch" oils as you say. The extra cents make sense. I am just worried that I may fry my motor without warning. The first thing I know could well be too late !!
 
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Re: 1985 Johnson 140hp VRO system

The oil injection system also needs maintenance.

Empty the oil tank and replace the sock, periodically.

Make sure to mix fuel until you verify oil useage, after maintenance.

See below, from FAQ's.


PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE
There is no mechanical maintenance that has to be performed on the pump
itself, but the VRO system should be inspected occasionally for cracked
lines, leaks, and broken clamps. One of the most common causes of engine
failure is water in the remote oil tank. Condensation and spray can build up
over time and, like water in a fuel tank, it stays on the bottom to be
sucked up at the worst possible moment. Water pumps through the system as
easily as oil, so several time a year use a turkey baster to draw off some
fluid from the base of the tank and squirt it into a clean jar. Look for
sediment or water settling to the bottom of the container. If you see any
signs of contamination, the tank should be flushed clean, the filter
(#174377) changed, and the oil line purged. Be sure to read and understand
the service manual before doing any of these procedures. If an oil tank is
exposed to the elements such as in an open boat, installing the tank inside
a covered battery box will protect it from spray. You can also replace the
clear plastic cap with the later model's solid black filler cap (#176217)
that provides much better water intrusion resistance. The oil line should be
OMC's ¼-inch I.D. inner "rubber" hose (#333485) without any splices. Early
systems had a smooth vinyl oil line that hardened after a few years and
sometimes caused air leaks. (Some installations even had 5/16-inch fuel line
squeezed down over the smaller fittings.) These air leaks can also trigger
"no oil" alarms, commonly at startup, idle, and trolling speeds.
Another service tip is to avoid Ty-raps or worm gear hose clamps on this
system. The ratchet clamps ( #322654) give the best seal and full 360-degree
clamping action. Late-model OMCs use a double-wire wound spring clamp
(#339277) that also works well in keeping lines air tight. Air leaks and/or
fuel restrictions will affect the VRO and usually show up as excessive oil
consumption, smoking, and fouling plugs. If air gets into the fuel, it
causes a foamy solution, similar to a head of beer in a tall glass. ( A
vapor lock situation does the same thing ). The volume of liquid fuel is
less and the oil delivered is the same as for a full chamber of fuel. Now
you have richer gas oil mix with its resulting symptoms. A fuel restriction
such as from a bad anti-siphon valve, kinked line, or a partially plugged
filter does not allow a full charge of gas to be drawn into the fuel pump
cavity. Again, you get the full shot of oil mixing with less gas. This is
also the reason to /not/ disconnect the gas line and run the engine "dry".
As you run out of fuel, the oil still pumps, filling the lines and carbs
with your favorite TC-W3 lubricant. Since the VRO depends on crankcase
pulses to operate, it is susceptible to backfires from a lean running
cylinder or an out of tune engine. If your motor is older than a 1993, make
sure it has the blue colored pulse limiter to protect the air motor and the
check valves in the pump. Follow the pulse line from the VRO to the engine
block and look for a hex shaped fitting threaded into the crankcase. If it
has a black face on it, replace it with a blue style (part # 435009). The
crossflow V-6s have a pulse limiter with a fitting at each end and spliced
in line with the VRO to crankcase hose. The inline replacement is part #
435010.
 
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