1983 regal royal 250XL

[budd858]

I reciently purchased a 1983 regal boat with twin 4 cyl volvo penta engines that need to be replaced due to sinking they are totally not worth tring to rebuild I have a few ? that i cannot seem to get answers for from the dealer.:: 1st ? is the size of the outdrives the plate is rusted and cannot seem to find out the size gear ratio or ne thing else. 2nd ? is would i be able to change the motors to inline 6cyls gm motors and still be able to use the bell housing . 3rd ? is does the port engine have to be counter rotating or does this occure in the outdrives?

 

[Don S]

Re: 1983 regal royal 250XL

Do you have pictures of the transom shield and drives. That would be the easiest way to ID them
Here is a chart, but you really can't see the transom shield and all the little things that may change.
Volvo Drive ID Chart

Going to a Chevy 6 is going to be a real problem as Volvo never used one. So you will not find an exhaust tube that attaches to the transom shield that will work. The ones for the 4 cylinder engines are on the wrong side.
The gear ratio is ONLY for the 4 cylinders and will not work with a V6 or V8 engine.
The counter rotation is done in the drive, not in the engines. Standard rotation engines are all you need.

 

[Bondo]

Re: 1983 regal royal 250XL

Hi Bud,...... Welcome Aboard,.......

I think we've talked before,.... Elsewhere,......

There's a couple of Cracker Jack Volvo Guys that hang out here,.......
Maybe 1 of them will stop by,.....

If you're the Poster I'm thinking of,....
You have twin Volvos, of Volvo manufacture,.. Not the converted Chevies,.....
You stated in the other post that the motors are Overhead Cam motors,.....
I Think that is going to be the Key, as to What you can use for your Repower.......


YaGot Me Again Don,........ I must Type Too Slow..........d

 

[budd858]

Re: 1983 regal royal 250XL

yes i do i am tring to add them

 

[budd858]

Re: 1983 regal royal 250XL

how can i send pics of drives

 

[Bondo]

Re: 1983 regal royal 250XL

Bud,....
Go Here,+ See how to post pics.....
http://forums.iboats.com/bbBoard.cgi?a=viewthread;fid=37;gtid=1179789

 

[Don S]

Re: 1983 regal royal 250XL

If you are trying to use the "attach a file" thing in the MORE section. It doesn't work, never has, probably never will. What you need to do is get your picture on the web at one of those photo hosting places, then click on the

icon and put the URL in the box that shows up.

 

[Don S]

Re: 1983 regal royal 250XL

YaGot Me Again Don,........ I must Type Too Slow..........

I use all 10, not just one each hand

 

[Bondo]

Re: 1983 regal royal 250XL

If you are trying to use the "attach a file" thing in the MORE section. It doesn't work, never has, probably never will.

Ayuh,...............

I've recently taught myself to write code, in order to insert Quotes easier,........
I'd like to see that "More" Button replaced with a "Quote" Button that actually Worked,.......
The 1 in the "More" section sure Doesn't.............

If I could use 1 on each hand,...........

I Could Type Twice as Fast.........................d

 

[budd858]

Re: 1983 regal royal 250XL

which one works good

 

[Don S]

Re: 1983 regal royal 250XL

which one works good

Hoping you mean which photo hosting site, and not which hand bond-o uses to type with,
I don't know which is best, I don't use them, but here is one you can use to post your pictures till something better comes along.
At least it will get the job done.

http://photobucket.com/

 

[budd858]

Re: 1983 regal royal 250XL

 

[budd858]

Re: 1983 regal royal 250XL

thanks fro the info the pic turned out

 

[Don S]

Re: 1983 regal royal 250XL

You have 280 outdrives. No trim, but there is a mechanical lift motor on each drive to raise the drive.
If the engines are dead, I would sure be looking at the elecrics on those lifts. The motors alone list for about 240 bucks each. I would also be pulling the upper gear boxes and checking the bellows and the drive for water.
Did this sinking happen in salt/brackish water or fresh water

Might want to photo the engines, that would help also.

 

[budd858]

Re: 1983 regal royal 250XL

sunk in salt water due to hurricane boat sat 4 2 yrs i am going to go through this boat from bow to stern inside and out gonna try to get back in ship shape 4 mid spring. the previous ownr told me that when they got the boat up they ran kerosene through the motors but from what i seen after taking the plugs out they couldnt have the boat sank in less thn ten feet of water is from what i was told. going to pull gas tank tomorrow to chech it out.

 

[Don S]

Re: 1983 regal royal 250XL

If it's been sitting for 2 years after sinking in salt water, you might as well write off anything electrical. Including the wiring. And it will probably be faster, easier, and only SLIGHTY more expensive to replace it all than trying to find only the usable (not good, just usable) parts for now. In a couple of more years what you save now will be dead.
The good news is that it won't effect the drives. They live underwater anyway.
Salt water causes wet wood, but it doesn't cause rot like rain and freshwater will.
You have your work cut out for you. I would suggest you find a couple of Volvo 4 cylinder engines somewhere (same model) and install them instead of adding more to your project and trying to change to something else.
Even 2 of the later Volvo 4 cylinder engines (aka rubber band engine due to the timing belt on the front) will require the same gear ratio in the drives. and have the same mounting on the transom shield.

 

[budd858]

Re: 1983 regal royal 250XL

so nothiong else will bolt up to these outdrives except volvo engines I already know that all electrical components need to be replaced all the gauges are faded the controlls are corroded the steering needs replaced the transom and the stringers are solid from what i can see theres no hull damage as from what i can see this is going to be a total refit i was just looking to see if there is ne thing that i could use that will bolt up

 

[Don S]

Re: 1983 regal royal 250XL

I'm not saying you can't put an inline 6 Chevy in it, I'm just saying it's not a common repower and a lot of the things you will need will be either custom made or backyard butchered together with anything that may work for the moment.
You can get new gears for the drive to change the gear ratio, and you can find a bellhousing for a Volvo that will fit on an IL6 Chevy engine, and if you can rewire to suit, you are home free.......... well maybe not free.
Anything is possible, but will it be usable or sellable when you want something a little more standard.
You asked a few questions not knowing there were more problems than you had thought about.

You aren't the only one, read this thread.

http://forums.iboats.com/bbBoard.cgi?a=viewthread;fid=24;gtid=1220385

 

[budd858]

Re: 1983 regal royal 250XL

i appreciate all tjhe info Mr Don Gonna do more home work before i get too deep into something that might get me in way over my head. thank you