150 HP Carbs Spewing Fuel

jak

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150 HP Carbs Spewing Fuel


Engine is a 2004 Yamaha 150TXRC. Engine has 130 hours and has run great the past two seasons. Last week I decided to winterize (fog) the motor and store the boat until Spring. The engine hadn’t been run for about a month. I removed the intake silencer and while pumping the bulb to start the engine, I noticed fuel spewing out of both throats of the middle carburetor and one throat of the lower carburetor. I pulled the center carb today and removed the float chamber. It was squeaky clean inside and both floats moved freely. I then removed the floats and inspected the needle valves using a 10X magnifying glass. The rubber tips show no wear or deformation and are pliable . They look new. The valve seats are not removable but they also look ok. I then reinstalled the needle valves and floats and checked the float heights according to the Yamaha Service Manual. The manual calls for the float height to be 16mm plus or minus 0.5mm with the gasket removed. One float measured 19.24mm and the other measured 19.56mm. Could this be the cause of the flooding ? What I can’t figure out is how they could get so far out of spec. Could it be that they weren’t set up correctly at the factory? Should I replace the needle valves? As previously mentioned, the engine runs and idles fine. In fact, probably eighty percent of better of the engine run time has been at idle speed trolling.

One more question. The manual states under the heading DISASSEMBLING THE CARBURETOR
“ Before disassembling the carburetor, make sure to note the number of times the pilot screw is turned out from the seated position to its set position.“ The problem is the manual does not identify a “pilot screw in the parts breakdown depiction. It shows a pilot jet and a pilot jet plug with the pilot jet plug having a torque setting of 2 Nm, 2.2ft lb. The manual goes on to state under ASSEMBLING THE CARBURETOR that “ Before assembling the carburetor, make sure to turn the pilot screw the same number of times, as noted before disassembly, from the seated position to the set position.” Could this be referring to the pilot jet itself? I haven’t removed any of the jets.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.
 

JUSTINTIME

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Re: 150 HP Carbs Spewing Fuel

a lot of gas coming out is either a miss adjusted float or sticking needle

as for the idle screw, it is under the plug, if u did not adjust it do not worry about it
 

Ray Neudecker

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Re: 150 HP Carbs Spewing Fuel

The idle air screw is near the top on each side of the carb. It has a spring on it. I would replace the needles and adjust the floats, as well as replacing the bowl gaskets. That bowl height does not sound like it was far enough off to cause the carbs to leak. The manual also should give the number of turns to adjust it.
Not sure what you used to fog with, but it may have affected the rubber part of the needles ability to seal properly.
 

jak

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Re: 150 HP Carbs Spewing Fuel

Thanks for the responses. With regard to the fogging oil, I used Yamaha Store-Rite Fogging Oil. I used it at the end of the last season and was getting ready to use it now when I noticed the fuel pouring up through the main jet. I’ll replace the needle valves and adjust the floats to spec. and see what that does. I guess I’m still confused about the pilot screw. The manual only identifies a pilot jet plug, a pilot jet and a pilot air jet. It doesn’t mention or show an idle air screw and doesn‘t mention any adjustments.

Thanks again.
 

Ray Neudecker

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Re: 150 HP Carbs Spewing Fuel

That model carb shows to turn the pilot screw (commonly know as idle air adjustment screw) in to a soft stop and back out to 7/8 turn plus or minus an 1/8 turn.
 

jak

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Re: 150 HP Carbs Spewing Fuel

Thanks Ray, The Yamaha factory service manual that I purchased for my model and year does not address that.
 
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