"72" 125 hp johnson

Saskatoon2005

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Take the compression tests, then remove that side head off as indicated by mikesea. Then you will actually SEE what the problem is and then you can decide what course of action to take. Good Luck!

Patrick
 

icy

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ok, I had time tonight to go out and take a look see.. compression was (top left right bottom left right) 105, 110, 50, 80.. I have removed BOTH heads and I don't really see any damage to the cyl walls.. BUT I do see some in the left 2 cyls in that something has been bouncing around in them. Odd thing is the top cyl was 105 lbs but showed some damage.. Nothing too serious as in it could be smoothed out and reused, but I cant really tell until it is torn down farther.. here are some links to pics I took tonight..

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u303/icecold_photo/Picture012.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u303/icecold_photo/Picture011.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u303/icecold_photo/Picture010.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u303/icecold_photo/Picture009.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u303/icecold_photo/Picture008.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u303/icecold_photo/Picture007.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u303/icecold_photo/Picture005.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u303/icecold_photo/Picture004.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u303/icecold_photo/Picture003.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u303/icecold_photo/Picture002.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u303/icecold_photo/Picture001.jpg

So I guess the step is to check out prices on a rebuild kit if there is such a thing for this motor..
 

Saskatoon2005

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It doesn't look too shabby,

You won't know everything until you take it completely apart. But I could definately see that being fixed. You don't need another powerhead, just fix what you got...piece of cake.....Good Luck!

Patrick
 

icy

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ok, can anyone tell me if I can find a rebuilt "kit" with bearings seals gaskets rings etc etc?? and what is the best book for me to get to do this??
 

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brp johnson diagram show an power head gasket set (less cyl head) # 0384950 that will get you started. didn't so set for crank, bearing, rings, etc. but show individual items.
 

icy

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i suddenly curious.. what other powerheads will fit on this motor??
 

emdsapmgr

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Looks like the rings have broken and migrated up into the cylinder. While running, the bits of ring beat themselves between the piston face and the head, causing the pits. This is a very typical failure on the crossflows. If the cylinder walls are scratched, then you will need an overbore. At the age of your engine, an overbore may be necessary anyway-check the taper on the cylinder walls. Personally, I would not reuse the pitted heads. In terms of what you need to rebuild, new pistons, ring sets, powerhead gasket set, impeller, thermostat. The rods and crank should be OK. All parts you need should be avail from Bombardier. You can check out the original parts lists online at: epc.brp.com. See your local dealer. You will have a problem with replacing the head, however, as they have been discontinued long ago. They are frequently available used on Ebay. The heads on your 125 engine are unique and high compression. Make sure you find the same part number repl head. Your ability to use other powerheads is limited. The powerhead bases changed in 73 and I am not sure 73 and up engines will work. Also, check for spline and height differences on the driveshaft. The upper bearing housing changed in 73, so none of your ignition system will transplant. Your electric shift gearcase will present problems, as any newer engine wiring harnesses will not have provision for the lower unit shift wires. You really have two solid options, replace the powerhead in kind, or overhaul the one you have. You can get an original 1972 manual from Ken Cook Company in Milwaukee, Wisc. Call them, they will take your credit card and ship direct.
 
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