Shingles?

[POINTER94]

I am having my roof redone and I need some advise or opinions on the shingles to go on the job. I am thinking that I would use the Owens Corning Archetectual 30 year shingles. I heard that some time ago they had an issue with wind and the fancy Owens shingles.

They also offer Elk brand. Anyone got an opinion?

 

[rolmops]

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I thought you were referring to the other shingles.They can be real nasty.
It mostly depends on the guarantee that the company that puts them on your roof gives and how much they stand behind their work.
I had a slightly reddish Elk brand shingle put on my roof last year.The contractor guaranteed a completely clean operation up to the point where he had a kid walk around my house with a big magnet to make sure there were no nails.The guarantee should be a 10 year free replacement and partial replacement on a sliding scale as the shingles age farther.Make sure that the contractor is fully insured.If he is not and one of his people falls off the roof,you are liable.

 

[ob]

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I just had a reroof 4 months ago using Owens Corning 30 year dimensional asphalt shingles.Terra Cotta colored looks real good on the house.According to several of the contractors I talked to, Elk and Owens Corning are very comparable rated shingles.OC was a bit cheaper so I went with them.They also make 40 and 50 year shingles that are progressively thicker,but if you use a standard 30# felt paper,it'll be cooked brittle in 20 years regardless of which shingle you choose.Once the felt starts getting cooked,the roof needs replacement anyway.I'm assuming that Mississippi summers are nearly as hot as south Texas summers. Hopefully the guy you end up going with plans to replace all of the roof vents,valley/ridge flashing,eave/drip edge flashing,and plumbing riser boots as part of his bid.Oh and don't worry about any mild waving of the shingle job just after completion as it will iron out nicely once it sees a few 80+ degree temp days.Also make sure that your roofer overhangs the starter row of shingles at least 1/2" in order for it to shed water from the facia nicely when it rains or drips humidity.It'll help save your wood from premature rot and mildew stains.

 

[JB]

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I am a great believer in metal roofs. Reduced my hail coverage about 30%.

 

[POINTER94]

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Good Stuff guys. I guess I will go with the OC. Living in the Great Lakes we don't have as long or possibly extreme summers. And I hope in 30 years to have a place on the water somewher d

I will review the quote when I get home and probably have him add a few vents or even a ridge vent. Thanks for the tips and pointers guys.

 

[OldMercsRule]

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Good Stuff guys. I guess I will go with the OC. Living in the Great Lakes we don't have as long or possibly extreme summers. And I hope in 30 years to have a place on the water somewher d

I will review the quote when I get home and probably have him add a few vents or even a ridge vent. Thanks for the tips and pointers guys.

[colour=blue]I would agree with JB and at least get a bid on metal ta ponder the cost vs comp. It is noisier, (when it rains) but it has many advantages. Up here in God's Country, (Seattle area) where it rains lots; and there is moss n' mildew issues: the metal works great, (where comp roofs tend ta grow moss). On RR island I used the heavy 40 year stuff, (comp) when I roofed my cabin in 1993, (new construction). The roof is still in great shape, but (hot) sun is rare, and lot's o' rain (100" per year plus) and big snow load, (which metal slips real good n' comp does not), are some positives that may not matter in the South. The metal roof reflects light n' heat, (depending on the color), n if you use the roof to collect water metal is clean n' asphalt is not. Fireproofing again favors metal although comp is not the problem a cedar roof is. All n' all if yer in it forever I think metal wins, if yer in a shorter time frame comp is a consideration, (ya may want ta cornsider a light color for the heat issue). My $.02. JR[/colour]

 

[Link]

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I thought you were referring to the other shingles.They can be real nasty.
It mostly depends on the guarantee that the company that puts them on your roof gives and how much they stand behind their work.
I had a slightly reddish Elk brand shingle put on my roof last year.The contractor guaranteed a completely clean operation up to the point where he had a kid walk around my house with a big magnet to make sure there were no nails.The guarantee should be a 10 year free replacement and partial replacement on a sliding scale as the shingles age farther.Make sure that the contractor is fully insured.If he is not and one of his people falls off the roof,you are liable.

My first thought was as yours
Had a friend that went through that. A lot of pain!
oN A ROOF... same thoughts.

Link

 

[aspeck]

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3 years ago I installed OC architectural 40 year shingles. Went with the 40 over the 30 because I liked the looks of them. Have an 8/12 pitched roof, so they should last a long long long time! Needed one bundle for the addition I am doing - bought yesterday at just under $20 a bundle (without running around looking for the best price because it was only one bundle). I don't think you will be sorry.

 

[stevieray]

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Pointer - also make sure they use a layer of that sticky rubber membrane around the edges to prevent ice-dam backup damage. It's a worthwhile investment.

 

[rolmops]

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I am a great believer in metal roofs. Reduced my hail coverage about 30%.

I looked into metal roofing for my house but the price was a killer.
Up here they are very popular because they will last for up to 70 years but even more because they put an instant end to ice damming on the roof

 

[JB]

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Yes. Mine was expensive. . . several thousand more than composite on my small (48'X24") house, but having had shingle roofs destroyed by hail and high winds twice in the previous 7 years I thought it was worth it.

It is raining hard on it right now. I have come to like the sound.

 

[POINTER94]

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All good stuff guys. JB I would have to agree that the metal might be an alternative, but in these parts the majority of the homes are shingles (99%). I also got a killer price from a contractor looking for work. So good that my neighbor wants me to have him come over and quote him as well. Shingles have been a little touchy over the years. Some of the fiberglass only, which is what I think is on there now, just didn't hold up well. They are turning to dust in my hand.

I spoke to a senior friend who had some installed and had nothing but grief due to high winds in Ohio. He owns a hobby farm outside of Ashland. So I am looking at the OC designed for high winds. But like anything new I am somewhat skeptical. But I just got home a couple of hours ago and the samples are really something special. They are the 30 year variety and I will see what the cost upgrade to the 40 year is based on the recommandation of aspeck.

Last week the furnace, this week the roof. God I miss renting.

 

[burroak]

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Good Stuff guys. I guess I will go with the OC. Living in the Great Lakes we don't have as long or possibly extreme summers. And I hope in 30 years to have a place on the water somewher d

I will review the quote when I get home and probably have him add a few vents or even a ridge vent. Thanks for the tips and pointers guys.

[colour=blue]I would agree with JB and at least get a bid on metal ta ponder the cost vs comp. It is noisier, (when it rains) but it has many advantages. Up here in God's Country, (Seattle area) where it rains lots; and there is moss n' mildew issues: the metal works great, (where comp roofs tend ta grow moss). On RR island I used the heavy 40 year stuff, (comp) when I roofed my cabin in 1993, (new construction). The roof is still in great shape, but (hot) sun is rare, and lot's o' rain (100" per year plus) and big snow load, (which metal slips real good n' comp does not), are some positives that may not matter in the South. The metal roof reflects light n' heat, (depending on the color), n if you use the roof to collect water metal is clean n' asphalt is not. Fireproofing again favors metal although comp is not the problem a cedar roof is. All n' all if yer in it forever I think metal wins, if yer in a shorter time frame comp is a consideration, (ya may want ta cornsider a light color for the heat issue). My $.02. JR[/colour]

 

[burroak]

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You guys have covered the merits of the shingles.

I just picked up on the moss/algae remark. The moss and roof algae problem can be eliminated with a material called Z-Stop. Just google it. If you look at roofs in the northern climes, most have a black/gray stain on most of the area. Any area down roof from zinc plated tv towers, roof vents , and flashings will be clean. For a nominal cost, you get a better looking and a longer lasting roof.

DYI - A strand of bare copper wire below the top shingle edge and about every ten rows will have the same result.

 

[ob]

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burroak,some of the composition shingles available today are classed as mildew/algae resistant and some of the grit adhered to the shingle is impregnated with algae inhibiting copper granules.That's what I put on my roof.Time will tell.You are correct in your description.Below the metal galvanized roof vents on most houses where high humidity levels prevail,the shingles are devoid of algae and mildew growth.

 

[POINTER94]

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Thanks all for the advise. I went with the 30 years OC shingles designed for high winds. They have about an inch and a half strip of tar that holds them down. The sample was the selling point. I really had to work them to so much as lift a corner.

Insured installer, but on the young side. He has done several houses in the neighborhood and has a contract with what I will call a professional flipper in this area. Bigger high end stuff. He uses a mat of 3 foot rubber like liner that goes around the base of the roof and is self sealing. Drip strip I guess.

And guess what, All American Workers. Young American Men doing the work that many said Americans wouldn't do. Sorry had to throw that in.

His quote was so far in line that my neighbor is having him quote his roof as well.

Stuff getting done before boating season. I think I am going to have a cornanary. 8) All I have left is to rebuild the porch, and install the sliding glass door I posted about several weeks ago. The porch is small and shouldn't take more than a couple of days to finish. d

 

[POINTER94]

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Oh, yea and sand and paint some windows, pour a new pad off the driveway for additional parking, paint the hallway/stairwell, refinish a couple of doors, landscape around the deck (thinking of a pondless waterfall, pretty cool looking and low maintainance), add some deck lighting, grind out some stumps, and possibly put in an irrigation system. Well ok, maybe I am getting ahead of myself. :%