How did the Enviro brigade miss this one

[OldMercsRule]

Re: How did the Enviro brigade miss this one

i also no that the Acid Rain thing has calmed down for two reasons

1. We cleaned up are power plants a lot

2. At some point when measureing the air quality it was discovered that the pacific air was comeing in from china with a FULL LOAD OF ACID RAIN STUFF

Makeing it kinda of hard to stop the problem

Who would have thought that could happen


Tommays

Certainly not Latex and the Wino, They would like to nuke every Tom, **** and Harry country that the USA have a beef with. d

[colour=blue]Sorry Vlad is Latex RF? 8)8) I know who Wino is, (I don't think he said "nuke 'em" I thought he just wanted to bomb 'em), I may be wrong of course. JR[/colour] 8)8)

 

[Haut Medoc]

Re: How did the Enviro brigade miss this one

Not all of Florida......
Just Broward Co. will do........
Murky, Frog is a/k/a latex amphibian.......

 

[POINTER94]

Re: How did the Enviro brigade miss this one

In my ongoing attempts to save the planet I can now see the importance of owning a Prius. Sure it doesn't save anything, in fact may be worse than a Hummer, but it is a banner for everyone to see the actual duplicity of the environmental whacko movement.

Science and facts, scarey stuff. I have to wonder how these "smartest and most enlightened" people in the world failed to address what some low life capitalist did.

In a related story, I guess that communist/socialists just don't care about what is clearly and definately going to happen to the poor. :}:}

This Al-AP story is from really really really smart people.
BRUSSELS, Belgium — The Earth faces increased hunger and water shortages in the poorest countries, massive floods and avalanches in Asia and species extinction unless nations adapt to climate change and halt its progress, according to a report approved Friday by an international conference on global warming.

Agreement came after an all-night session during which key sections were deleted from the draft and scientists angrily confronted government negotiators who they feared were watering down their findings.

Anyone have any findings on how the Prius handles in a mudslide?

 

[tommays]

Re: How did the Enviro brigade miss this one

OR

"The 1930s drought was the major climatic event in the nation's history," Schubert said. "Just beginning to understand what occurred is really critical to understanding future droughts and the links to global climate change issues we're experiencing today."

By discovering the causes behind U.S. droughts, especially severe episodes like the Plains' dry spell, scientists may recognize and possibly foresee future patterns that could create similar conditions. For example, La Niñas are marked by cooler than normal tropical Pacific Ocean surface water temperatures, which impact weather globally, and also create dry conditions over the Great Plains.

The researchers used NASA's Seasonal-to-Interannual Prediction Project (NSIPP) atmospheric general circulation model and agency computational facilities to conduct the research. The NSIPP model was developed using NASA satellite observations, including; Clouds and the Earth's Radiant Energy System radiation measurements; and the Global Precipitation Climatology Project precipitation data.

The model showed cooler than normal tropical Pacific Ocean temperatures and warmer than normal tropical Atlantic Ocean temperatures contributed to a weakened low-level jet stream and changed its course. The jet stream, a ribbon of fast moving air near the Earth's surface, normally flows westward over the Gulf of Mexico and then turns northward pulling up moisture and dumping rain onto the Great Plains. As the low level jet stream weakened, it traveled farther south than normal. The Great Plains dried up and dust storms formed.

The research shed light on how tropical sea surface temperatures can have a remote response and control over weather and climate. It also confirmed droughts can become localized based on soil moisture levels, especially during summer. When rain is scarce and soil dries, there is less evaporation, which leads to even less precipitation, creating a feedback process that reinforces lack of rainfall.

The study also shed light on droughts throughout the 20th century. Analysis of other major U.S. droughts of the 1900s suggests a cool tropical Pacific was a common factor. Schubert said simulating major events like the 1930s drought provides an excellent test for computer models. While the study finds no indication of a similar Great Plains drought in the near future, it is vital to continue studies relating to climate change. NASA's current and planned suite of satellite sensors is uniquely poised to answer related climate questions.

NASA's Earth Science Enterprise funded the study. The Enterprise is dedicated to understanding the Earth as an integrated system and applying Earth System Science to improve climate, weather, and natural hazard prediction using the unique vantage point of space.

For information about NASA and agency programs on the Internet, visit:

well i guess this is science ?

Tommays

 

[Vlad D Impeller]

Re: How did the Enviro brigade miss this one

Not all of Florida......
Just Broward Co. will do........
Murky, Frog is a/k/a latex amphibian.......

If yer gonna do it, do it now, i'm in texas thru april 15th.d

 

[WillyBWright]

Re: How did the Enviro brigade miss this one

I fail to see any "double standard" here. We're talking about Russia. What do you expect US to do about what goes on in Russia? When has the US Ever had any control over what goes on in Russia? Last I heard, they were still a soverign nation. Do we like their polluting ways? No! Can we do anything about it? No! Is the US the only nation that uses catalytic converters? No! All we CAN do is clean-up our own act and lead by that example. Unfortunately after the near-genocide of our own native population, we have only a muted voice regarding other countries current genocides. After clear-cutting most of our North American rain forest to make way for building and farming, we have only a muted voice regarding clear-cutting in South America. After all of the pollution that we did prior to the Environmental Movement, we have only a muted voice regarding how other countries pollute their own land. But we've learned from our mistakes and all we can do is hope that others learn from them rather than repeat them in their own back yards. Double Standard. BAH! I think you have to re-evaluate your definition of the term.

 

[POINTER94]

Re: How did the Enviro brigade miss this one

I don't know Willy. Why don't we treat the Russians exactly the same way we treat smokers in this country. Corner them off - then take away that corner, make fun of them, tax the crap out of them, run TV commercials riddled with lies belittling them, legislate their rights away, blame them for everything that goes wrong with the country. I mean come on, this is the air that we breathe. All self entitlement schemes have to be on the table.

I mean the liberals have the playbook, they just selectively choose who they apply their dirty tricks to.

 

[WillyBWright]

Re: How did the Enviro brigade miss this one

That's pretty weak, Pointer. Do you really think that the average Russian gives a hoot about what goes on here? Do you think the average American gives a hoot about what goes on there? Can either do anything about the other? The double standard I DO see here is the bellyaching I see here about Russia's pollution while you Bushies rebuke the Kyoto Protocol. Now THAT's a double standard!

 

[Plainsman]

Re: How did the Enviro brigade miss this one

I fail to see any "double standard" here. We're talking about Russia. What do you expect US to do about what goes on in Russia? When has the US Ever had any control over what goes on in Russia? Last I heard, they were still a soverign nation. Do we like their polluting ways? No! Can we do anything about it? No! Is the US the only nation that uses catalytic converters? No! All we CAN do is clean-up our own act and lead by that example. Unfortunately after the near-genocide of our own native population, we have only a muted voice regarding other countries current genocides. After clear-cutting most of our North American rain forest to make way for building and farming, we have only a muted voice regarding clear-cutting in South America. After all of the pollution that we did prior to the Environmental Movement, we have only a muted voice regarding how other countries pollute their own land. But we've learned from our mistakes and all we can do is hope that others learn from them rather than repeat them in their own back yards. Double Standard. BAH! I think you have to re-evaluate your definition of the term.

Hmmm.... I thought that the UN could do something about Russia willy. I mean when the UN says the USA is wrong or polluter then by God we better do what they say. Isn't that the lib answer? The UN knows what's best for us and we better listen or else?

 

[POINTER94]

Re: How did the Enviro brigade miss this one

I don't know Willy... Kyoto wouldn't do anything to stop what has been reported. The Russians are exempt. The emissions from the US continue to drop faster than any other developed nation and we didn't even sign the world communistic agreement.

But think about it, how much fun liberals could have insulting, marginalizing, legislating against, people who are destroying the air we breathe. They could place themselves (again) as morally superior to everyone on a global scale as opposed to just national.

I guess if a person in Texas dies of lung cancer due to pollutants blown over his home from Mexico, that makes it A-OK? Heck, they won't listen anyways. Nothing we can do. Don't waste our time. It's an unfair burden. He was likely a conservative and probably deserved it.

Look if we don't attack all forms of pollution, in all locations, it make about as much sense as me putting an air filter in my back yard to clean up the neighborhood.

 

[WillyBWright]

Re: How did the Enviro brigade miss this one

Yah! The UN. Now THERE's an exercise in utter futility.

 

[Plainsman]

Re: How did the Enviro brigade miss this one

Lol