Haut Medoc
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It is official.....
The Dems are a bunch of surrender monkeys......
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18332561/
I've said it before. I know many do not agree. But there is absolutely no explanation for this besides EVIL. For those of you on the secular left, that is a Biblical term for bad things that eminate from the Devil. When a party wants power so bad that they resort to this kind of thing, there is no other explanation. As misguided as the Left are, they are not stupid, but yet this is a stupid move.
One has to ask why. And while you are at it, you need to ask why Nancy Pelosi does not bother to meet with the General in charge of operations in Iraq. She goes and meets with all of our adversaries and will not listen to the reports of the man in charge of operations?
Dots, I say. They are screaming for you all to listen.
That bandwagon is loaded with votes, hence the stance.
I think that vote was for the media.
If they thought there was a chance that my President would sign it I think many would have voted differently.
Quote PW,
Hooray for the Dems. Finally showing some intestinal fortitude!
Let's hope they hold their ground with their newfound backbone, and don't buckle in the delusional process of trying to win an unwinnable civil war.
Why then are the democrats (who are supporting the troops. Whose, we don't know?) waiting until tuesday to present this to the president? They are out of money now. Where is their concern for our troops? You may remember the troops, those terroristic, nazi's per certain democrats.
Why, why would anyone present a bill to the president that they know he won't sign and have zero opportunity of an overide if they were REALLY concerned for the troops?
I don't understand your point at all, Pointer>
The congress has sent a bill that fully supports the troops. All the President has to do is sign it. If he doesn't sign it, who then is not supporting the troops?
Now if we were really serious about imperialism and empire building, we'd reinstitute a draft in order to send in 1/2 million or more troops, declare Marshall Law, instill the government of our choosing, take over the oil assets, disarm all of the militias, both Shia and Sunni, and stabilize the country. Who would stop us? Now that is something I could understand. Not agree with, perhaps, but at least understand.
These half hearted measures like a 20k troop "surge", where we even have to extend tours, and extend new deployment orders to guard units that aren't ready, just to put more Americans into the line of fire on a mission that can't possibly succeed without the the full cooperation of the Iraqi government, who up till now have shown little willingness, and less ability to cooperate, just simply makes no sense, especially when there is a real threat we do face.
And in so doing we are "supporting" the troops? Get real! It's a foolish plan that borders on the criminal.
OK, Pointer.
I'm not too thrilled with the pork either, but pork has never stopped this president from signing anything before. Why start now?
We've made virtually no progress in this war so far, in the four years the pres has had everything he wanted. We are losing 100 Americans a month, with no end in sight. Our military is stretched too thin now, and we have no realistic way of keeping this up for very long. At 100 dead American soldiers a month, how many months do you expect to keep this up? 12 months? 24 months? Longer?
Elections have consequences, and this madness has to stop at some point.
So are you saying that you support the timeline PW? Just a bit bothered by the "pork" for peanuts to get a few Senators votes? So when the President Veto's the bill he's against the Vets as well, cause ya know the dems put $ in the bill for vets ?
I say the dems are a bunch of vote hungery, Damn the troops and vets, pigasses. If they gave a ratsass about the troops they would send a clean bill that said just that.
But lil nancy and dingy harry would rather bash the President than do what is NEEDED for the troops.
How can we surrender when we've already won? It's time to get out. There is nothing more we can do there to change things short of mass genocide.
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