shift problems

poppins

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i have a electric shift that puts it in neutral, forward and reverse. The prop however only spins like it is in gear. There is no Manuel way to put it in neutral on the outside of the motor that i can see. it is a 125 evinrude 1971.thanks for any help
 

tashasdaddy

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Re: shift problems

i also have a 71 50h electric shift. they automatically default to forward, if there is no power to the solenoids in the lower unit. the only control for shifting are the buttons on the shift console. the prop will spin in neutral on muffs, because the exhaust is going thru the prop.
 

F_R

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Re: shift problems

Will it go into reverse? As said, it has to be running in order to shift and if there is a problem with the electric or hydraulic systems it won't shift even while running, defaulting to forward gear. That was supposed to be a fail-safe feature so you get back home if there is a malfunction. What I am trying to say is there may be a malfunction. Is the lower unit full of oil? That oil is also the hydraulic fluid that actually does the shifting when you push the button.
 

poppins

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Re: shift problems

I'm completely stupid when it comes to boat motors.I was told that i don't need to have the gas connected to start the motor to see if it works. So apparently i need to hook everything up including gas and try to start? Im sorry guys, i just dont know anything about boats. Thanks for the help
 

Joe Reeves

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Re: shift problems

(Hydro Electric Shift)
(J. Reeves)

The shifting setup of the lower unit is what's called a "Hydro Electric Shift", which is quite complex consisting of voltage being applied to solenoids in the lower unit which in turn change oil passages via a oil pump that supplies various pressure on a spring loaded shifter dog. The wires leading to the lower unit (at the powerhead) are "Green" and "Blue". The engine must be running or cranking over in order to shift out of forward gear.

You CAN NOT use HI VIS lube in that lower unit. You MUST USE what OMC calls "Preminum Blend" lube, commonly called "Type C". (A thinner lube)

In neutral, you need 12v to the "Green" wire.
In reverse, you need 12v to both wires, the "Green" one and the "Blue" one.
In forward, there should be no voltage to either wire. (The spring loaded shifter dog forces the unit into forward gear)

To check the lower unit for proper shifting to make sure you have no trouble there, remove the spark plugs to avoid problems and to allow a higher cranking speed.

This next step eliminates the actual shift switch in case problems may exist there.... Disconnect the blue & green wires at the knife connectors (the rubber insulated boots) leading to the lower unit at the powerhead, then using jumpers, take voltage direct from the starter solenoid to apply voltage to the "Green" wire for neutral, then both wires 'Green" & "Blue" for reverse (Remember the engine must be cranking over in order to shift).
With no voltage applied, the unit should be in forward. No need for a ground jumper... the lower unit's already grounded. You may crank the engine with the key switch or by energizing the starter solenoid with a jumper wire.

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