How heavy?

[storysunfolding]

I'm about to switch an 85 hp 1969 evinrude from one boat to another tomorrow. I'm not certain that I can get an engine hoist though. Would it be possible for 2-3 guys to lift off the motor and set it on the other boat? About how heavy is this motor?

 

[Marc III]

Re: How heavy?

It's really close to 300lbs. Be careful if you decide to proceed.

 

[jddenham]

Re: How heavy?

According to NADA, that motor should weight around 265lbs. Should be pretty easy for two guys if you lift safely. Watch the tilt/lock mechanism. Make sure that it won't move on you if you grab there.

 

[sdunt]

Re: How heavy?

If your garage has an open ceiling and was built with trussed rafters, you can lay a pole or pipe in the V of the rafter bracing and attach a rope or come-a-long, etc. In a two car garage you should find the V almost directly over the center of each 'bay' of the garage.

Just make sure you spread the load over SEVERAL rafters.

I pulled a small block Chevy V-8 out of a car that way..

 

[storysunfolding]

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thanks but no garage. I think three of us can lift 265 alright.

 

[tashasdaddy]

Re: How heavy?

rent a cherry picker (engine lift) before someone gets hurt. they are extremely top heavy and ackward, and nearly impossible for 3 to get hold of it. raise the bow of the boat as high as you can.

 

[CATransplant]

Re: How heavy?

I second tashasdaddy's recommendation. It's not expensive to rent an engine hoist at a rental yard. All it takes is for the skeg on that engine to land on someone's foot, and it'll cost a lot more.

Drop the engine on its cowling and it'll cost a lot more.

Go rent the engine hoist.

 

[storysunfolding]

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Where do I find a rental yard? Does the engine have a good attachment point?

 

[storysunfolding]

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Ok- I found a place. $15 for four hours. Do I need any special harness/chain/rope? I don't know where I'd attach it but I'd imagine that a strong nylon rope tied into a harness will get the job done.

How hard is it to dismount and remount a motor?

 

[CATransplant]

Re: How heavy?

The rental place should have various harness setups. Tell 'em what you're doing and they'll rent you what you need for another $4 or $5. They may even have the proper lifting ring for your outboard. That's their business. Call 'em and tell 'em what you'll be doing, and they'll help you out.

Rental yards have seen it all. If nothing else, they'll have some adjustable strap harnesses you can use.

Work safely and enjoy your boat.

 

[CATransplant]

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How hard is it to dismount and remount a motor?

That depends on how it's mounted. If it's bolted to the transom, then you'll have to unbolt it (while hooked up to the hoist), remove the bolts, then lift it.

On the new boat, you'll have to drill appropriate mounting holes through the transom (make a template from the holes on the other boat), position it on the new transom, then bolt it up, sealing the holes with an appropriate sealant.

If it's clamped to the transom, then it's a little simpler, but I'm betting yours is bolted.

Then, it's a matter of getting the controls, etc., properly connected.

Plan first, then move. Have the necessary tools, etc. at hand and work carefully and methodically, and you'll have it done before you know it. Make sure the outboard is secure before committing it to the hoist. Make sure straps won't slip off the motor, using cross straps or some other means to keep them positioned.

You'll want to work on a good hard surface...not on a lawn or something soft. You're talking about two boats, so move the boats on their trailers...not the hoist with the engine hanging off of it.

Oh, yeah...you'll probably find it easier, too, if you raise the front of the trailer so the engine is as low as you can get it. Same thing for re-installing.

Finally...beer time comes after the outboard is on the other boat.

 

[Windykid]

Re: How heavy?

What ever happened to swinging motors from the tree in the back yard?

 

[CATransplant]

Re: How heavy?

What ever happened to swinging motors from the tree in the back yard?

Yeah! That's how we all used to do it, huh? Personally, I think the engine hoist is easier...I really do.

 

[storysunfolding]

Re: How heavy?

What are the chances that a 69 evinrude is going to have the same bolt locations as a 93 johnson?

 

[CATransplant]

Re: How heavy?

What are the chances that a 69 evinrude is going to have the same bolt locations as a 93 johnson?

What horsepower was the 93 Johnson? I'm guessing that they aren't going to match, but I could be wrong. I assume that the boat the motor's going on already has the engine removed, right? You can measure the holes in it, both vertically from the top of the transom and the distance between them, then measure on the other boat that has the donor engine, from inside the transom.

If you're lucky, they'll match. If not, you have to plug and seal the old holes before drilling new ones and mounting the engine. Use proper marine sealant wherever you work. 5200 on permanent stuff and 4200 on stuff you may disassemble later. It's important to seal any holes in the transom well, so water doesn't get in there and rot that transom.

Measure very accurately twice. Drill once. Make a template, then check it against the engine's bolt pattern before transferring it to the other boat. Make sure of your centering. Take your time. Make sure of everything, then check it again. Drill undersized pilot holes to keep your larger bit from walking. You don't want any more holes than you need in your boat.

 

[Willyclay]

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I have a 1968 Johnson 100HP V4 that weighs the same as your motor. My removal got complicated when one of the two OEM bolts holding the factory lifting ring to the block broke. I was able to bolt a short length of chain to the remaining bolt and one other threaded hole to remove the motor from my boat. Then came the task of drilling out and extracting the heat-treated broken bolt. Be careful and get the weight off the lifting ring asap!

 

[storysunfolding]

Re: How heavy?

it was a 115 hp

 

[tashasdaddy]

Re: How heavy?

get the measuring tape out and start measuring, you may get lucky, if not have some dow 5200 around to fill the old holes.

 

[CATransplant]

Re: How heavy?

Well, that's a v-4, too, so there's a chance that the bolt pattern is the same. I just don't know, since my experience is with big twins. You'll have to measure, unless someone here pipes in and lets you know for sure.

It's a long time between 1969 and 1993, though, so...I wouldn't be surprised if they re-engineered that attachment at some point.

You may also have issues with controls. Again, I don't know those two engines well, but I know they redesigned the steering setup between those years. The electrical hookup may also have changed.

One positive note, though...the fuel connection will be the same.

 

[CATransplant]

Re: How heavy?

get the measuring tape out and start measuring, you may get lucky, if not have some dow 5200 around to fill the old holes.

I've never done it, but it seems to me that a nice-fitting hardwood dowel would help fill the old holes, along with the 5200. I like solid stuff in transom holes.

All my outboards clamp to the transom. But then, I have little boats.