1984 Evinrude 35HP Flooding Fix

Palssonater

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Wow, I just stumbled onto this site a couple of days ago and can't believe the amount of time I have spent reading. What an amazing wealth of knowledge here!

I orginally found this site when I was looking for a fix for my 1984 Evinrude 35HP. It was flooding itself upon throttle up and was being very picky to get it start. All sorts of issues. Backfires, coughs, rough "almost starts", and handwrenching pulls. The motor when running would have soaked plugs when pulled.

Over the past two weeks I've been up and down the motor. The carb was cleaned and the needle and seat tested to 6psi and held. I checked the fuel pump to find that in working order. Went as far as the Reed/Leaf valves to find that there was some slight spacing between the metal reeds/leafs and the leaf plate. Figuring that could be my problem(I am fairly new to outboards), I switched those out to no avail.

Finally got it running fairly consistent and proceeded to completely close the fuel mixture screw/needle adjustment on the carb. The motor continued to run. I found this quite odd as there should be no fuel delivered. I removed the primer hose and dead ended the primer nipple to find out that the motor then died. After I gave the fuel mixture screw approx 2 turns the motor then ran fine with the primer disconnected. Dissasembling the primer I found the valve had a slow leak and would not hold pressure meaning that it had failed.

Does it make sense that at High speed the motor developed enough suction to bring in fuel through the primer(which is tapped from the bottom of the float bowl)? Or if the primer does not have the ability to hold air, the pressure created by the fuel pump could essentially push fuel through the primer and up to the carb?

We then got the motor out on the water and tuned for a dry golden brown coloring on the plugs using the fuel mixture screw. She's been running great for a while now.

These are my findings. I am not saying that I was right, but it seems to have corrected the problem. Thought I would ask for some thoughts and comments and make my first post a good one!
 

reeldutch

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Re: 1984 Evinrude 35HP Flooding Fix

if the primer valve is leaking presure from the fuelpump will push the fuel into the intake manifold.

good trouble shooting my friend.

check your needle for grooves some people tend to set them tight and make a groove in the needle so it will never set corectly.

good luck
 

Palssonater

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Re: 1984 Evinrude 35HP Flooding Fix

Hmmm, now that I have the plugs running perfect, I am still having trouble getting it to start properly as well as when going from idle(runs smooth) to WOT the motor seems to consume the gas in the primer bulb on the hose but will not draw more from the tank and eventually dies out with a sputter.

However, there is not enough suction to actually collapse the primer ball. Just feels squishy/air bubbly when primed by hand. Sucking in air at the tank connection? I can then prime it by hand to get the ball hardened up and run a little ways like that before it completely dies out again. However, eventually (after 5 or so tries to get up onto WOT) it will sustain the WOT and I manage to get going.

I am still troubled with the poor starting and poor performance at WOT. One thing that I noticed is that almost all the connections coming off the fuel pump are zip tied. I will be hose clamping them tonight to try.

Any other suggestions for starting or "squishy" primer ball.
 

Barnacle_Bill

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Re: 1984 Evinrude 35HP Flooding Fix

That is signs of a cracked fuel line, primer bulb or fuel pump needs to be rebuilt. It is normal for the primer bulb to get soft when the motor is running as there is fuel flowing thru it. Ty wraps on fuel lines are very common.
 

tashasdaddy

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Re: 1984 Evinrude 35HP Flooding Fix

total agreement. air leak or failing pump. i still like hose clamps.
 

Palssonater

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Re: 1984 Evinrude 35HP Flooding Fix

I agree for the primer bulb to get softer during running, however this feels very "bubbly" and seems to be quite a bit if air present as opposed to full of fuel.

For the money I will get the fuel pump repair kit and try that out. Funny that it'll run wide open after sometime. I have a borrowed tank I will try maybe tonight or tomorrow.

Thanks for the help. I will post findings.
 
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