3500lb towing capacity boat is 2500 dry

[kaliman91]

I own a 2003 Mazda Tribute. Manufacturer says i can tow 3500lbs. This is the boat i am looking at but i am alittle worried i am cutting it alittle to close.Is 1000lbs sufficent "play" room?

BTW great site. A ton of info i dont know i would learn half the stuff i know with out these vbulletin messe boards.

http://www.boats.com/listing/boat_d...20&clk_srcrvs_nav&srh_prev=true&srh_next=true

 

[bassboy1]

Re: 3500lb towing capacity boat is 2500 dry

I wouldn't push a car to its tow limit at all. With that car, you need to find a boat with a "wet weight" of 2500 pounds.

 

[tommays]

Re: 3500lb towing capacity boat is 2500 dry

Your well over 4000#


Weight does not include the tandem axle trailer ,150 HP outboard motor , 50 gallons of fuel ,battery's ,stuff and more stuff

The people in your car count against the tow rateing kind of and industry dirt trick


Tommays

 

[RCSConstruction]

Re: 3500lb towing capacity boat is 2500 dry

Tommays,

So it's not "as equipped" as far as posted weight, just the hull???

 

[kaliman91]

Re: 3500lb towing capacity boat is 2500 dry

Well according to nada the "Net weight" of the boat is 2500?

 

[tommays]

Re: 3500lb towing capacity boat is 2500 dry

It says DRY weight never have seen a 21 ft boat on a tandem axle trailer weight 2500 #


Tommays

 

[kaliman91]

Re: 3500lb towing capacity boat is 2500 dry

ok gotcha!

Thanks

 

[Silvertip]

Re: 3500lb towing capacity boat is 2500 dry

50 gallons of fuel = 300#. The engine is in 350 - 370 range. It's not included in the boat weight because boat manufacturers have no idea what engine will be installed on it. Likewise, they have no idea whose trailer will be used. It could be aluminum or steel. Big difference in weight. You buy a boat "dry". Then there is all the stuff. Batteries, life jackets, fishing tackle, dock bumpers, coolers (full of beverages). Now the kicker -- that trailer does not have surge brakes as I see no surge brake coupler. They might be electric however. If you didn't notice, there is a full size pickup in the first picture. That should be a clue that maybe you have too small a vehicle to tow this load safely. You can certainly get it moving but stopping and turning at speed will give you a thrill you never before experienced.

 

[kaliman91]

Re: 3500lb towing capacity boat is 2500 dry

Well with a 3500# capacity what am i limited to? I went as small as a new 17' Bayliner. Dry is 1847 trailer weight is 2312 which puts me over 4100.Unless when it says trailer weight it includes the boat and trailer.

http://www.theboatingcenters.com/ne...007J7I46I34JPMQ2933R0&veh=42380&CatDesc=Boats

 

[kaliman91]

Re: 3500lb towing capacity boat is 2500 dry

Sorry for what may seem like a basic question most here. I have always driven boats just never had to trailer them.

 

[bassboy1]

Re: 3500lb towing capacity boat is 2500 dry

Well with a 3500# capacity what am i limited to? I went as small as a new 17' Bayliner. Dry is 1847 trailer weight is 2312 which puts me over 4100.Unless when it says trailer weight it includes the boat and trailer.

http://www.theboatingcenters.com/ne...007J7I46I34JPMQ2933R0&veh=42380&CatDesc=Boats

Well, I think that is the "trailered weight." I have never seen a 2000 pound bumper pull empty boat trailer. That would take into account the boat, trailer, and the 135 mercruiser I/O. Add 160 for 20 gallons of fuel, and another 150 for batteries. Then, add all the people in the car, and all the toys you will be carrying, and you have gone over 3500 pounds again. I think you need a bigger truck to get any type of boat you have been looking at, or a boat more like this.

 

[tic]

Re: 3500lb towing capacity boat is 2500 dry

Don't even tow NEAR the max limits of your truck/car... Unless you like replacing transmissions.. I've been researching this heavily as we plan to buy a new biggier/heavier boat... If you want to tow 3500 lbs.?.. get something rated for 5,000.. etc etc.

 

[Silvertip]

Re: 3500lb towing capacity boat is 2500 dry

You need to do some trailering reading and learn what weight numbers mean. The "Trailer Weight" is not what the trailer weighs. It is the weight the trailer is capable of carrying. On a trailer you will find a tag that lists the various tire sizes and their load ratings that can be fitted to a given trailer. The larger the tire capacity, the more weight the trailer can carry. Springs, Axle type and number of axles obviously affects weight carrying capacity as well. A single axle trailer probably weighs around 500 pounds. So plop your 1850# boat on it and you are up to 2350. Add some fuel and gear and you would still be under 3000#. Still pushing the limits in my view but far better off than with the other boat.

 

[chaparral442]

Re: 3500lb towing capacity boat is 2500 dry

if you do not have to trailer very far- by a "beater" tow vehicle, carry only liability insurance and list it as a recreational vehicle-- or if you can swing it trade up for a better towing vehicle-- minimum 5000 lb towing capacity

 

[Rancherlee]

Re: 3500lb towing capacity boat is 2500 dry

I have to agree, if you have the parking room a nice used, slightly rusty, 4x4, 1/2 ton truck should only run ya 1500$ or so. Plenty of truck for pulling 5000# with a fame mount reciever hitch. This is what I do, only costs 300$ a year to insure the old 88' F150 and It come in handy for alot of other stuff like trips to home depot, hauling crap around, and as a spare vehical.

 

[Rob454]

Re: 3500lb towing capacity boat is 2500 dry

As much as i like to tow close to my limits i dotn go past what the limit is.
With the mazda youll be way over. Liek the other guys say as soon as you add in fuel , food, people and clothes youll be way over the limit.
You CAN tow at the limit and past that but it would be very very dangerous not only for you but the passangers and the other drivers on the road.
Most of my trucks have been 3/4 or 1 ton trucks so I tend to tow pretty heavy. I sold my company and I didnt need to tow heavy anymore so i bought a 1/2 ton truck. your average 1/2 ton truck tows abotu 90% of what most people out there will ever tow.
Either trade in the mazda for a truck. and when i say truck i mean something with at least a v6. most trucks today are rated to tow 5000 LB even mini trucks. Either that or go buy a older truck but youll have repairs cause its older and may break down. besides you have no idea what life it led so it could have some really bad problems
Look for a used but well taken care of truck. they are out there
Rob

 

[1970 Chieftain V]

Re: 3500lb towing capacity boat is 2500 dry

I have been researching this alot recently. The numbers mean alot. Becareful towing around the vehicle tow limit. You could be charged with vehicular manslaughter if you get in an accident with a fatality and the authorities determine you were towing over the limits of your vehicle.

This site has very good information about towing.

http://www.rvtowingtips.com/

Jason

 

[Jerico]

Re: 3500lb towing capacity boat is 2500 dry

The dry weight on my 17.5' bowrider is 2400, I figure fully loaded it's in the 3500 range. I pulled it twice with a '01 Olds Bravada with a 5000# tow rating. It pulled it, but the engine really strained to hold 60 mph, and I was very careful braking. I ended up picking up a 3/4 ton '90 Ford panel van for $500. Put and A/C on the roof, bed in the back, and the wife and I have been having a blast spending the weekends at the lake.