New crackdown on U.S. border

[Plainsman]

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0807/5323.html

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In one of the most interesting revelations, the plans call for the administration to ?train growing numbers of state and local law enforcement officers to identify and detain immigration offenders whom they encounter in the course of daily law enforcement.........?


I don't see anything in the article about denying federal funds for sanctuary cities.

And I'll believe it when I see some real results!

 

[Haut Medoc]

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Is it my computer or are the links just not working?....​

 

[POINTER94]

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Election cycle politics. The Rep. were outmanuevered by the socialists regarding the negotiations for purchasing the illegal immigrant vote. The socialists have sold out our country and now will get their prize. And the throng of trained seals will applaude their traitorous actions while declaring themselves more "progressive".

This is nothing more than trying to sure up the base. Second place isn't so bad unless you are in a two man race. I don't buy it for a minute. The only way to make this really work, as if that were really the intent, would be to first close the boarder, second hold courts accountable to the law which they now ignore, flaunt, or defiantly violate, update our immigration laws, then step up enforcement. Typical, going about about things in the wrong order. Hardly something to get excited about. The enaction of plan B... enforcement after they are here and allow them to manipulate the system to get to the same place they are now. Smell like dog sheet??? Taste like dog sheet? Good thing we didn't step in it. - Cheech

 

[SpinnerBait_Nut]

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Is it my computer or are the links just not working?....​

Bro Haut, worked ok for me.

 

[Plainsman]

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Is it my computer or are the links just not working?....​

The link works haut, not sure if it's computer.

 

[Haut Medoc]

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It's about time.....
I think illegal immigrants should be executed, not deported....
That might send a message & make 'em think twice....
How much does a .30/.30 round cost these days?....
I'd wager far less than a prison bed.....​

 

[treedancer]

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OK, trying real had to stay out of any Bush bashing, I will only say ITS ABOUT TIME. Any critics of this administration that are standing by lurking, look at paragraphs three and four, of the link. (How?s that Mike? See I?m trying, the withdrawal is a bixxx but I?m trying hard, don?t know if I can make it to Monday though.)

 

[mikeandronda]

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Tree, The effort is not lost on me. Good on you and I tell you what maybe it will be contagious and you and Murky can put the gloves down and come up with some ideas that would work.....of course it all be for fun because in my opinion the Polititions on both sides like the way things work and dont really want anything to change so Im sure they would never listen to some good ideas anyway

 

[12Footer]

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Three cheers for Georgia!!Click here to find out why.

 

[cougar1985]

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hey, if there,s no illegal immigrants whose going to watch the politicians kids for slave wages amigo,s?

 

[Plainsman]

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Good link 12. It would be nice if the laws were enforced throughout the nation. It looks like states are tired of the hee hawing from the feds and doing what needs to be done.

 

[JB]

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Looks like somebody got tired of waiting for Congress to pass immigration reform that fits the real world, so they finally decided to enforce the present law. That is good, and about time, but. . .

It is a double edged blade. Agriculture, construction and other industries that presently employ millions of illegals are gonna take a big hit and guess who is going to pay? Are you gonna be happy to pay $2.50 for a head of lettuce, $10K for a new roof? How about $8K a month for extended care for nursing home patients?

If this energetic enforcement had been in place for the last 20 years (that's 13 years before GWB took office) there wouldn't be a problem. Now we have a big one.

Congress needs to get off their collective butt, forget negative politics for a while and pass immigration reform.

 

[ricksrster]

Re: New crackdown on U.S. border

Looks like somebody got tired of waiting for Congress to pass immigration reform that fits the real world, so they finally decided to enforce the present law. That is good, and about time, but. . .

It is a double edged blade. Agriculture, construction and other industries that presently employ millions of illegals are gonna take a big hit and guess who is going to pay? Are you gonna be happy to pay $2.50 for a head of lettuce, $10K for a new roof? How about $8K a month for extended care for nursing home patients?

If this energetic enforcement had been in place for the last 20 years (that's 13 years before GWB took office) there wouldn't be a problem. Now we have a big one.

Congress needs to get off their collective butt, forget negative politics for a while and pass immigration reform.

Employers that hire illegals under the table for less than minimum wage are falsifying records and not paying their fair share of taxes. That puts the burden on us. These people that are hiring people for less than minimum wage, doctoring their books and not paying the required taxes are no better than Al Capone and belong in a federal penitentiary.

 

[POINTER94]

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Why is it that employers can't hire illegals, but the government can hand out, free education, free healthcare, welfare, aid to families with dependant children, food stamps, legal assistance, etc. for them doing absolutely nothing?

 

[12Footer]

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JB, do you realy believe buisnesses are passing-on the bennies from their ill-gotten gains on to the consumer? And as for extended care, I'm of the opinion that the costs (just as in the rest of the medical umbrella) will decrease because we wont have to pay for millions of uninsured illegals that will never pay the med bills they aquired while in America. Maybe they'll go home, and either stay, or come back thru the admittedly-laborious legal meathods.

 

[tommays]

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GO TO THE ER AND WAIT ,IT IS PACKED WITH ILLEGALS BECAUSE THE ER IS THERE ONLY DOCTOR AND THEY CAN NOT BE TURNED AWAY


i will stop shouting now

Go to all the single parent anchor baby families packed into the now NON-ENGLISH areas of Long Island and try and figure out what he real cost of that is

It is worse then migrant camps were because at least they left the children home



Tommays

 

[12Footer]

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'zactly, tommays.

 

[POINTER94]

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Why would they want to go to our hospitals, they are the worst in the civilized world? The really good ones are in Cuba!!!!

Any chance this may have something to do with declining service in our health care providers?

 

[JB]

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Just pointing out the downside, guys. If you think this is going to be a net gain for the taxpayer you need to look at it more closely. It may well not be.

The notion that all illegals are a drain on the economy is pure fantasy. Sure, some of them are, but are they a majority? The notion that all illegals are hired at below minimums and pay no taxes is also pure fantasy. There are some, but how many compared to the productive, tax paying ones? The big majority of the ones I know are paid a decent wage, use no welfare benefits and pay taxes. Yes, I want them arrested and deported unless those liberal jerks in Congress get their heads out of their butts and deal with reality.

My question is, are you willing to throw out the baby with the bathwater? If you think there is no baby you are kidding yourselves.

One of the things that sometimes makes me embarrassed to be conservative is the conservative compulsion to slap labels on people and paint them all with the brush that fits only the worst of them.

 

[Boomyal]

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If this energetic enforcement had been in place for the last 20 years (that's 13 years before GWB took office) there wouldn't be a problem. Now we have a big one.

Also, if we had not been killing, how many millions of babies, over the last 20 years, maybe we would have a sufficient home grown workforce. We might be having to pay more for some things but at least we would not have to press one for spanish and fight off an evergrowing movement to return the southwest to Mejico.