Worn-out Topic with a Different Question

T0PWATER

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I really hate to even start a topic about oil, but I am not able to verify something my local Johnson/Evinrude dealer told me recently.

I went to the dealer recently to pick up some supplies to do my regularly scheduled maintenance with. Not of sure what the previous owner had done or more specifically when, I decided to do it all. I picked up spark plugs, fuel conditioner, carb cleaner, gear lube, and everything else I needed to do a full job.

I noticed that they didn't have any XD30 on the shelves, only XD50 and XD100. So out of curiosity I asked the service tech/owner the difference between the stuff he stocked and the stuff I usually use for my '99 carbureted Johnson 150. Coincidently I didn't know, at the time, that it was XD30. I just knew that it was Evinrude/Johnson outboard oil that was easily available at Academy Sports where I usually pick up my tackle from.

He goes on to tell me that the stuff I'm using is pretty much for 80hp outboards and under and that I should really be using the XD50. So I pick up 2 gallons of it and check out. He reminds me on my way out to save the jugs so I can refill them later and save more next time I need some oil.

Now I've been all over the internet, checked all the boards, looked at the Johnson website, and I cant find one thing to back up his claim. I can tell you the only thing my owner's manual states is to use genuine Evinrude/Johnson outboard oil.

I am familiar with the differences of conventional and synthetic oils and working at a chemical plant that produces thermal engineered plastics I understand additives, batch sampling, and the fact that there is really only handful of producers of all these different oils.

I know everyone has their own preferences on the brands they use or maybe just "Whatever is on sale," but I have been digging for days and I just can't find anything to back up this guy?s claim.

My preference is to stay with the Johnson/Evinrude oil. The only other question I have is, since the XD50 is only 3 or 4 dollars more a refill than the XD30 is off the shelf, is there really an advantage to using the XD50? I normally run about 4500 RPM for half an hour to an hour at a time.

Maybe his point was just that the synthetic blend of the XD50 was just better for my outboard, since it is a cleaner burning oil with less deposits left behind.

Any thoughts?
 

Dhadley

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Re: Worn-out Topic with a Different Question

Your motor will be fine on TCW III, or the blend or the full synthetic. Call the customer service line at BRP. They'll give you the straight scoop. They'll probably be real interested in knowing what the dealer is telling folks. Make sure they understand we're talking about carb'd motors.

In my opinion, based on the oil testing we've done on carb'd 70 hp motors & larger, I believe the blend is slightly better than the TCW III although there's nothing wrong with the TCW III. We run the full synthetic in high rpm race motors although we get excellent protection from the blend.

From the testing we also found out proper rpm has as much if not more to do with powerhead component life than the difference between TCW III and the blend. Again, carb'd motors.
 

T0PWATER

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Re: Worn-out Topic with a Different Question

Dhadley,

Thanks for the info. It sounds like the blend may be the way to go for me.
 

clemsonfor

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Re: Worn-out Topic with a Different Question

Not sure b/c i just use Twc 3 but isnt the xd30 and xd50 both a blend?

-Nate
 

tashasdaddy

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Re: Worn-out Topic with a Different Question

walmart, shell, exxon they all do the same thing if rate tcw3.
 

Dhadley

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Re: Worn-out Topic with a Different Question

Remember, TCW, TCW II and TCW III are minimum requirements for a particular oil to get that rating. It is entirely possible for one TCW III oil to provide better protection than another TCW III oil.
 
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