88 spl ram removal

[antiquostone]

thanks for all the grate info thus far. i bought a o-ring rebuild kit and am trying to figure out how to remove the ram.

i removed all six bolts of the transom plate,( 3 each side) removed the manual release screw and the pin that goes threw the ram eye. i get movement but it seams the ram is connected to the resovoir and the TT motor? do i have to remove the transom brackets?

 

[HighTrim]

Re: 88 spl ram removal

You may need to remove the port side stern bracket, disconnect the steering,slide the port bracket to the left, to be able to slide the TNT unit out. There will be a pivot pin that holds the base of the ram to the TNT unit that you need to remove. They can sometimes be tricky. Get a good penetrating oil, large hammer and punch and work on it bit by bit. Or you may get lucky if it has been out recently.

 

[antiquostone]

Re: 88 spl ram removal

would using an engine hoist help hold motor?

 

[HighTrim]

Re: 88 spl ram removal

Im sure it would, I prefer grunting and groaning in the driveway lol I always just shove a piece of wood in between the motor and stern brackets to hold it temporarily. But yes i wish i had a engine hoist.

 

[antiquostone]

Re: 88 spl ram removal

i'll be crackin at it tomorrow. thanks for the help

 

[HighTrim]

Re: 88 spl ram removal

OK Gl, hope it comes out easy for you, some can be real buggers. Others have had luck with heating the body with a torch to expand it to ease in the removal of the pin.

 

[antiquostone]

Re: 88 spl ram removal reinsatall/TT MOTOR REBUILD

Re: 88 spl ram removal reinsatall/TT MOTOR REBUILD

i dug into it last nite, it took about 1.5 hours to remove the entire unit. i am rebuilding the ram as we speak. i had a question.

i decided to rebuild the trim motor, i was having problems with it working sporatically. i would have to ocassionaly tap it to work. i bought the rebuild kit. luckily, the brushes were worn and one of the springs was broke. my question is when i took the motor out of the casing i forgor to take a photo. the motor shaft looks like the end of a flat head screw driver. when i close the casing it sits within a plastic round piece that has two smaller slots also like screwdriver ends. the shaft does not lock into anything. i don't know if i may have lost a part that connects the shaft to the plastic part?????

 

[HighTrim]

Re: 88 spl ram removal

That is the oil pump below the motor. On top of the pump there should be a pump filter. To reinstall, be sure pump drive tang is in the hole directly opposite the round locating boss. The shaft of the motor sits in the drive tang. Replace pump and engage the locating boss in the pump cavity recess. Replace three pump screws and tighten.Fill the cavity inside filter and over pump with TNT fluid.

 

[antiquostone]

Re: 88 spl ram removal

I Really Appreciate The Great Help,

Got Everything Back Together, Seal Kit Trim Motor Etc. Put Oil In It And Pumped The Piston As A Few Times To Circulate Oil. I Still Feel A Little Air Before It Has Smooth Action Up And Down. Do I Need To Bleed The System? If So How Do I Do That? Should I Go Ahead And Power It Before I Put The Unit Back In Its Crammed,tight Little Area? Is There Anything Specific I Should Do?

 

[HighTrim]

Re: 88 spl ram removal

Just cycle it a few times, then re check the fluid level and fill as needed.

 

[antiquostone]

Re: 88 spl ram removal

sorry to bother you again. i reinstalled everything as per my last post. before installed it back i pumped the piston and checked and added oil.
i put power to it thinking the smaller rams would move. they did not. i thought may be because there was no weight on it it would not move. i installed the unit back between the transom brackets and connected the large ram and when i removed the engine support the motor dropped as it did before we determined a rebuild was required. the motor sounds like its running fine but i cant get any movement out of the rams. i even unscrewed the air release valve under the motor and held the pin in to remove air but only oil came out. where do you think i went wrong?

 

[HighTrim]

Re: 88 spl ram removal

Make sure the manual release valve is closed and tight. Rest the motor on the trail locks and ensure again that the oil level is topped up. Since the motor is running, you can rule that out. What Im worried about is how you installed the motor. You mentioned that the shaft of your motor didnt seem to fit into anything, it should. It may just be spinning freely and not operating the pump. Did you end up figuring out the installation?

 

[antiquostone]

Re: 88 spl ram removal

i beleive you are correct about the motor free spinning. i could not get it to fit into anything. i understood the part about the screen above the pump. the screen had an oval cut out that housed the two slot like openings. the shaft of the TT motor did not seem to fit into any one of them. should i have pulled on the TT motor shaft to elong ate it so it locked into the slot? the size of the TT motor shaft seemed larger than the slot on the pump.

i will be pulling the unit out again momentarilly. i didn't torque anything just in case

 

[HighTrim]

Re: 88 spl ram removal

What exactly was included in your rebuild kit?

 

[antiquostone]

Re: 88 spl ram removal

the rebuild was strictly brushes and brush springs and an oring for the casing

 

[HighTrim]

Re: 88 spl ram removal

ok so as far as dissassembly, you didnt take anything apart other than taking the motor off? The pump and filter beneath it were left alone? You should simply slide the shaft of the motor in the slot in the pump, just turn the motor until the motor shaft engages the pump shaft. Position the motor so that the cable is on the port side of the assembly. Then replace the 3 screws on the flange.

 

[antiquostone]

Re: 88 spl ram removal

i just dissasmbled the motor again. the shaft of the motor comes thru thebottom plate. it only sticks out about 3/8". it doesn't make it far down enough to hit the slot. the worst part is the slots on the pump are smaller than the male shaft. can pictures be posted on the forum where i could send you some pics?

 

[HighTrim]

Re: 88 spl ram removal

The pictures from your digital camera will no doubt be too large to post. Youll have to use a site called photobucket, then either post the link here or there is a way to attach the pic from there in your post. I myself have never used it though. If the drive shaft on the motor is not engaging the pump shaft that is definately your problem. If nothing else was changed though other than the brushes in the motor, it has to fit as it did when you took it apart, so nothing major, just something that you are overlooking. Post the pics and lets see if we can get this solved for you.

 

[antiquostone]

Re: 88 spl ram removal

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee223/antiquostone/P1000321.jpg
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee223/antiquostone/P1000320.jpg
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee223/antiquostone/P1000319.jpg
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee223/antiquostone/P1000318.jpg

hopefully you can see these thanks for the info. i never heard of photobucket. i tried to align the shaft to the slot on the pump, seems i may have lost an adapter that may connect the motor shaft to the pump slot. i didn't think anything got by me but maybe you have an other idea

 

[HighTrim]

Re: 88 spl ram removal

I think you're missing your oil pump! lol What you are looking at is the pump cavity recess. The pump sits inside that. On top of the pump will be a drive tang that I spoke of. The drive shaft on the motor sits in the drive tang. Below the oil pump is a "locating Boss". Be sure the pump drive tang is in the hole directly opposite the round locating boss. When replacing pump engage the locating boss in the pump cavity recess. You must of lost it somewhere. It is round disc.