87 Suzuki dt140 water light

mailman2

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When starting my 140, the water temp light is on, then goes off after a couple of seconds. When I started it today, the temp light stayed on and the water was coming out like it always did. It was pumping out the pee hole,and I checked the thermostat and it was warm, but the light and buzzer stayed on. ANY HELP
 

hopalong

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Re: 87 Suzuki dt140 water light

How hot was the water? The pee stream dont always mean the water circulating system is working adequately. The sensor located at the top head is the temp warning sensor and combo flow sensor. It signals a fault in either. Have you changed the water pump within the last year?
 

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Re: 87 Suzuki dt140 water light

It was replaced 3 years ago. But have only used it 6 times since it was changed. It is a good solid stream coming out. How hard is it to replace the sensor? Is it to the right of the t-stat housing, with 2 screws and 3 wires? I have been sick the last couple of years and don't want to give up fishing.I have gone 5 years before replacing the impeller and even then it was fine. No sand picked up and flush everytime I use it.
 

hopalong

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Re: 87 Suzuki dt140 water light

I have an 1987 140 and 115 OB and can say the impeller can deteriorate overtime by sitting within the housing. Having said that the best way to determine if there is an overheating/flow problem would be have a pressure gage or at least a temperature gage installed. But if you don't have either suggest you pull the lower unit and check the impeller and the stainless plate that seals the upper pick up at the inlet. If it is dished or warped it will cause water flow problems. If all is found ok, remove the sensor located below the thermostat housing and see if the floatswitch arm moves freely and the sensor opening and closes ok..see your manual how to determine if the sensor is defective.While you are at it removed and look at the thermostat also and determine if it is opening.The thermostat should be fully open at around 120 to 130 degrees F. If the sensor and the thermostat is ok attach the muffs to the lower unit with the thermostat and sensor removed and turn the water on and flush out the system and see if there is debri coming out. Flush well. Hope this info is helpful.
 

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Re: 87 Suzuki dt140 water light

Thanks for getting back to me. I'll give it a try.
 

hopalong

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Re: 87 Suzuki dt140 water light

You're welcome...be carefull when removing the screws/bolts from any of the OB items for they break-off easily if they are seized.;)
visit my website to see the sensor in question http://www.flickr.com/photos/12505056@N06/1302828249/ . Also to view an illustrated parts engine breakou visit www.brownspoint.com
Just click onto the parts sketch on the page then to your motor DT115 1987 and scroll down the page to view item descriptions
 

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Re: 87 Suzuki dt140 water light

Took the sensor out and when I kifted the arm, the light went out. So that is ok.I have never done a water pump myself, had some else do it, Is it hard to do? Maybe I'll have some one do it in the spring. I put the muffs on, but nothing came out of the sensor hole. I probably don't have enough water pressure. {well water]
 

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Re: 87 Suzuki dt140 water light

I have never done a water pump myself, had some else do it, Is it hard to do? Maybe I'll have some one do it in the spring.
I would suggest then before you get into the pump impeller removal perform the following to help identify the problem. Process of elimination:

Did you remove the thermostat? While the thermostat is out run water into that opening to wash debri out. Do the same for the sensor opening. Leave both of these openings open when flushing. You can run water down into these openings and out. Leave the muffs off. Also air pressure will work to blow out sand etc.
Took the sensor out and when I kifted the arm, the light went out. yes that side of it may be ok but the temp side of it may not(this sensor serves a dual purpose as a temperature warning AND a flow detecting device). Note, water flow through the passage where the arm is must flow fast enough to "move" the arm to close the electrical circuit. If the flow of water is not enough to move the arm to the point of closing the electrical circuit the light will stay on indicating inadequate water flow/supply which may relate to: an obstruction in the water circuit passages from impeller up and into heads and out, weak pump impeller, thermostat not opening fully or closed.
Usually the best way to determine adequate water supply thru the motor is with a water pressure gage. Since you dont have one then us a thermometer (even a dial meat themometer or alike that is accurate) measure the temperature of the water. It will give you at least a ball park figure to see if the motor is running at normal temperature. If you know the water temperature is normal then most likely the sensor is defective.That probability is likely and you would just replace the sensor. Note if the temperature is normal then "flow" should be normal in relation to the normal temperature. I had a sensor were the motor was not running hot and flow was good ..the sensor was bad.

But If the temperature is well above normal then the sensor temp side is working ok by doing its job by bringing on the warning light for temperature indication and most likely cause by a low water flow,ie. pump impeller etc, that would cause this condition. The temp side and flow side of the sensor work so as one will verify the other in a given range.

So as you can see KNOWING the water temperature you will be able to at least eliminate some items and may not need to replace the the pump.

PS hope that you have at least enough water pressure from the well to provide an adequate water supply to the motor....if not that may cause the motor to overheat or low water flow
 
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