Can I DIE !!!!

[ddennis]

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Nice knowing ya. Will watch for the obituary later. :-(

 

[Navy Jr.]

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Okay, so I'm a novice small craft boater, but I was raised in a Navy family and have lived in or near numerous ports and bases. Sailed across the Pacific three times on Navy transports. Took a few day trips with Dad on destroyers and heavy cruisers while he was C.O. of those ships. Heard lots of horror stories of tragedies at sea. And then there were the rescue missions. (On one of those Pacific crossings we diverted to answer an SOS from a South Korean ship). Bad things happen even to the most experienced.

I love a good adventure as good as the next guy, but this is one I would definitely pass on unless I had many years experience on big water, and in a much newer boat.

I believe Robert said he had 7 children, four still living at home. There's his answer right there.

If that's not good enough, then perhaps he should try asking the Coast Guard what they think of his idea...

 

[oops!]

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Use your money wisely.
Buy the boat you want.
TRUCK it home.
Fix it properly while not in a hurry to get home a thousand miles away
Learn how it works.
Use it on short trips, then overnights, then weekends.
Then go for long cruises with experience and knowledge of the boat and how it works.


Small steps, not giant leaps, is how to get into boating without killing yourself or your family.

this is the best advice ive heard in a long time. ive been boating fifteen years. mostly lakes.
lived on a yacht on the ocean . got to know a lot of the salty dawgs. they say stay off the ocean unless you know what you are doing.
your abilities might be good but the weather is a different story.

i suggest to buy the boat u want and mabe in a year or two try a trip like that
and btw, 50 mpg is about average for a sailboat. not a power boat.

 

[dmcb]

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I never said to go willly nilly. He isnt charting across the gulf of mexico. If he stays near the coast

One of many statements that says you don't know what you are talking about because you can't do that.
You will be out of sight of land for many hours during this run.
Doug

 

[Don S]

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*sigh* I will have to just agree to disagree with the majority.

THis is 2007, almost 8. GPS systems, top notch emergency equipment, radios, cell phones etc...I would not be so worried about it.

And trying to pull off a stunt like that with no experience puts a lot of professional lives at stake to save some sorry azz like you that expects everyone to look out for and save you when things don't work out as you hoped.
When you go out on a trip like that, unprepared and expecting an untested old boat to get you thru it when you have no boating experience you are just plain old WRONG. And to advocat that as "a good thing" is just as bad.
And I am personally tired of paying taxes just to have the CG, Police, Fire, or whoever responds, going out to save someone from himself because they think everyone should lookout for them. Especially when things go wrong in bad weather.

 

[rbaz]

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Doug said:
One of many statements that says you don't know what you are talking about because you can't do that.
You will be out of sight of land for many hours during this run.
Doug

For people that would like to make a run like the one discussed one day what do you mean "you will be out of sight of land for many hours". Are you saying you can't stay close to the coast with land in view the entire run?

Rod

 

[thefairlaneman]

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I can understand the want for adventure. I asked an old school buddy just 2 weeks ago that once had a 25 foot sail boat about buying a used 25/27 footer from craiglist and sailing open water from NC to florida..I offered to find the boat if he would captain it with me and a couple of other inexperienced boaters,he said "HELL NO".........go figure

 

[skeat]

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Besides all the obvious reasons that this is just a bad idea there is also the fact that he has 4 kids at home (2 that are young). These people that are advising him to go, are they volunteering to care for these children if anything should happen? I guess they say that the gov't will take care of that also, just like calling the coast guard when caught it a situation that you should have never got involved in. I would say get a nice family boat, learn the ropes while having fun with the kids in local waters and then when they are out of the house and you have years of experience under your belt you can plan some nice trips (and actually enjoy them).

 

[mspring]

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I live in Naples, Fl and fish the gulf in a 20 footer. But I know what my boat is capable of. Here in the gulf, storms form quickly and have no mercy.
I was caught in one bad storm only about 6 miles out with water coming over my windshields and lightening hitting around me. I think I would rather have had the enemy shooting at me lol.

The 27 footer sounds like a good project boat. Here in Florida there are so many boats you can find some good deals, but the salt water and harsh sun
year around take their toll also.

Trailer your boat and pull it home and all you have to worry about is a trailer wheel bearing going out.

 

[dmcb]

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Doug said:
One of many statements that says you don't know what you are talking about because you can't do that.
You will be out of sight of land for many hours during this run.
Doug

For people that would like to make a run like the one discussed one day what do you mean "you will be out of sight of land for many hours". Are you saying you can't stay close to the coast with land in view the entire run

Well yes that is what I am saying.
Look at any map of Florida. Look at what is called the Big Bend area. The North East part of the Gulf at the Panhandle.
There are few to no marinas as you approach the panhandle. The few areas are not marked well and at low tide will be a problem. If you try to follow the shore you much reach Carabelle and fuel will be a problem. There isn't any.
Also the Gulf is shallow. At Crystal River for example it drops 1 foot per mile.
Two things wrong here. Shallow water becomes rough water quickly. And you have to stay off shore far enough to be sure of enough depth.
Now look what you have to do to clear places like Cedar Key. Gonna follow the shore and burn all that fuel?
Now you can get in at places like Horseshoe Beach with local knowledge perhaps but there is no fuel.
From there or maybe Steinhatchee you better set a course for Carabelle if you want a chance to have enough fuel. Or carry a lot of extra which will slow you down and burn more.
This idea is a terrible one given the total picture.
Anyone who suggests it isn't just doesn't have both oars in the water.
And likely you will need those oars.
Doug

 

[amynbill]

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One of many statements that says you don't know what you are talking about because you can't do that.
You will be out of sight of land for many hours during this run.
Doug

Huh? You cant cruise along the coast? What map are you looking at?


Sorry, Id do it in the way I explained it. I really could care less about the "explanations" and reasons I couldn't. I have done many things in life (as have many people I know) that it seems many people wouldn't dare try.

According to some of you, the glass will always be half full. To me it is always full. C'est la vie.

 

[Mark42]

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Well yes that is what I am saying.
Look at any map of Florida. Look at what is called the Big Bend area. The North East part of the Gulf at the Panhandle.
There are few to no marinas as you approach the panhandle. The few areas are not marked well and at low tide will be a problem. If you try to follow the shore you much reach Carabelle and fuel will be a problem. There isn't any.
Also the Gulf is shallow. At Crystal River for example it drops 1 foot per mile.
Two things wrong here. Shallow water becomes rough water quickly. And you have to stay off shore far enough to be sure of enough depth.
Now look what you have to do to clear places like Cedar Key. Gonna follow the shore and burn all that fuel?
Now you can get in at places like Horseshoe Beach with local knowledge perhaps but there is no fuel.
From there or maybe Steinhatchee you better set a course for Carabelle if you want a chance to have enough fuel. Or carry a lot of extra which will slow you down and burn more.
This idea is a terrible one given the total picture.
Anyone who suggests it isn't just doesn't have both oars in the water.
And likely you will need those oars.
Doug

DallasRobert, With just this little bit of info (and imagine all the possable challenges that lie in the rest of the trip) I would lay money on you experiencing an untimley demise.

But I could be wrong, just ask AmynBill.

 

[QC]

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Just cause I love a good fight . . . in a previous thread, I am pretty sure that amynbill said he would only buy a new boat because he didn't want somebody elses problems . . . Sounds like a risk taker to me

 

[RWilson2526]

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yo guys....I think we are being a little harsh on AmynBill. I think if all 10 or 15 of us were standing around in person and shooting the breeze about this with DallasR, Billnamys response would not stand out so ....he's just offering some encouragement and enthusiasm. I am sure DallasR did not read all of these posts and say to himself "well Bill says its cool so here I go!!!".

Sorry, I just think "irresponsible" is a harsh word.

Sorry man, your on your own. too much heat

 

[amynbill]

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Just cause I love a good fight . . . in a previous thread, I am pretty sure that amynbill said he would only buy a new boat because he didn't want somebody elses problems . . . Sounds like a risk taker to me

Definitely. I have never bought a used piece of machinery ever. Never will.

However, this is a scenario and in this scenario, I would do it

 

[amynbill]

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Sorry man, your on your own. too much heat

lol...I have 3 kids, a wife, I coach and run an ice hockey team, and own a company with 15 employees and hundreds of clients. Some boating bulletin board isnt going to frazzle me too much

Thanks, though. Nice swimming against the tide with ya.

 

[SuperNova]

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Some boating bulletin board isnt going to frazzle me too much

That's probably because you don't ever have to do anything you claim you are willing to do and you don't have to prove you ever did any of the things you claim to have done.

I find it difficult to believe a person as irresponsible as you claim to be is actually responsible for so many people. More likely you are a twenty-something wanna-be. Just my opinion. Prove me wrong

 

[amynbill]

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That's probably because you don't ever have to do anything you claim you are willing to do and you don't have to prove you ever did any of the things you claim to have done.

I find it difficult to believe a person as irresponsible as you claim to be is actually responsible for so many people. More likely you are a twenty-something wanna-be. Just my opinion. Prove me wrong

lmao...I dont feel the need to "prove" anything on some discussion board. Does it really matter? Why would you possibly care?

However, what would you like me to post? Picture of my office and company, my home with tennis court and pool, ice hockey pics, snowboarding/skiing pics? ...Ill let you pick and I'll post.

Im 38 yrs old, and in case you didnt realize there are people out there who are into extreme sports and pushing limits for adventure, perhaps you should delve a bit deeper into life.

Though I am nowhere near as successful or as brave, seems to have worked for people like Branson, Hughes, and thousands of other people throughout time and space who enjoy such things.

Frankly, I find this whole thread a bit silly and entirely tiresome. No one has to agree with me that I would try this, I could truly care less. But I would. And I dont see the original poster as someone who is going to listen to the one person who says they would do it. It's obvious to almost everyone that it is not something to do. I like to do those type of things. Cant you just see that is just my personality by now in review of this thread? It is the fact that most think it cant be done that is why I would love to try.

Geez, you really have to lighten up and go on...

 

[Scaaty]

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"Geez, you really have to lighten up and go on..."

Ya know, this best said while looking in the mirror..

We get it, you're the best, you're the greatest, ya live 3000 miles away from me, so all is right with the world..

 

[amynbill]

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"Geez, you really have to lighten up and go on..."

Ya know, this best said while looking in the mirror..

We get it, you're the best, you're the greatest, ya live 3000 miles away from me, so all is right with the world..

oh my...I never said I was the best at anything, nor can I understand how you could possibly extrapolate such a thing

How did this get so out of control in this thread? My only true, viable statement throughout this entire silly thread is that I like challenges, I would do it, and that is who I am.

I have never once said I am better than anyone, or anything to that fact.

In opposite, I feel ganged up on thus far, calling me basically an idiot for suggesting such a thing. I have not yet, once, told anyone anything derogatory, yet read through the thread for several instances thrown in my direction.

If anyone needs to look in mirrors, it is by those who have posted such comments directed at me. I had up until this point thought this was a pretty cool discussion board. It is quickly turning into someplace I am thinking twice about visiting if views differing from the norm are going to be lambasted.