4 blade and 3 blade propellers

mobytodd

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Re: 4 blade and 3 blade propellers

Sorry my bad... Like I said I am so new to this stuff and the forum as well
 

walleyehed

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Re: 4 blade and 3 blade propellers

Boat style and use will be a major part in choosing 3 or 4 bld props.
What've ya got?
list prop(s) you have now and what you expect from the boat.
 

mobytodd

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Re: 4 blade and 3 blade propellers

I have a 14ft alum center console with a 40hp Evinrude. Would love a good hole shot and nice top end. Like all I want the most the boat has to offer. I need a prop and wanna know what the best is...
 

HighTrim

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It use to be that the 4 blade props would give better hole shot due to their increased surface area though less top end due to increased drag. However, due to advances in engineering, the new 3 blades are changing the rules. They give you the best of both worlds.

It is imperative, however, that the wide open throttle RPM fall within the range specified by your engine manufacturer, that is number 1.
 

walleyehed

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"If I may add"...The best of both hole-shot and top-end will come ONLY with fine-tuning the engine height and prop combo...regardless of 3 or 4 blade. A std bolt-on is not the final answer if looking for best performance at both ends.
 

Silvertip

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Re: 4 blade and 3 blade propellers

A 11-3/4 x 17 will work well on that boat and they can be had on the cheap. Four blade and maximum top speed are generally at opposite ends of the performance spectrum. Sort of like saying I want and SUV that pulls like a mule and gets 40 miles per gallon. Props are like the transmission in your car but you have only one gear so the prop has to do it all. Because it has to do it all, selection of a prop is somewhat of a compromise. You want maximum hole shot you give up a little top end. Go for top end and you give up a little hole shot. What you are after is a prop that allows the engine to rev at the top of its rpm band. A 11-3/4 x 17 or 12-1/4 x 15 will do that.
 

mobytodd

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Re: 4 blade and 3 blade propellers

A 11-3/4 x 17 will work well on that boat and they can be had on the cheap. Four blade and maximum top speed are generally at opposite ends of the performance spectrum. Sort of like saying I want and SUV that pulls like a mule and gets 40 miles per gallon. Props are like the transmission in your car but you have only one gear so the prop has to do it all. Because it has to do it all, selection of a prop is somewhat of a compromise. You want maximum hole shot you give up a little top end. Go for top end and you give up a little hole shot. What you are after is a prop that allows the engine to rev at the top of its rpm band. A 11-3/4 x 17 or 12-1/4 x 15 will do that.

I just ordered 12-1/4 x 15. It should be in on Friday. One question... Is the 11-3/4 x 17 the same thing as th 12-1/4 x 15? Essentially that is.
 

Silvertip

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Re: 4 blade and 3 blade propellers

Essentially -- no they are not the same. The first number is propeller diameter. The second is pitch which is the theoretical distance one revolution of the prop pushes the boat forward. In the case of these two props thats 15 inches or 17 inches. Prop diameter changes a little when going up or down in pitch but it has less to do with performance than does pitch. Every inch of pitch up or down lowers or raises engine rpm 200 RPM or so depending on prop design. Either of those two props are a "starting" point and either may be very close to what you need. But engine rpm at wide open throttle is what is needed. Raising the engine on its mounting bolts also plays into this setup process. Mounted too low the engine creates drag. Mounted too high the engine loses water pressure or the prop loses bite and ventilates. Happiness is somewhere in between. Setup and prop selection is a trial and error process so if you mess with engine height you need to mess with the prop and vice versa. Some props can handle higher engine height than others. Do a google search on "propeller theory" and you can read about propeller design and how it affects performance.
 

scoutabout

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Re: 4 blade and 3 blade propellers

Propeller theory is fascinating.

I had a great introduction to the realities of pitch compromise when I was a kid going for rides in my uncle's boat. At the time, though, I didn't understand what I was experiening or what the issues were.

It was a late sixties-era Humber Jewel with a 65 Merc on the back. A very small boat (can't remember exactly but probably about 12 feet LOA) and the big old 65 was a good 20 hp over the max rating for the boat. At rest it floated with the snout way up in the air. Actually, I'm amazed my parents let me go anywhere near it or my uncle.

Anyway, it had this funky two blade bronze or brass racing prop and it would struggle mightily with that setup to get on plane. You had to stand on the seat and lean over the windshield while the motor roared and you went nowhere...at first.

Once that bow finally came down however, and you were firmly on the plane, the whiplash acceleration was incredible all the way to the top end - which was damn scary in that little thing.

My uncle didn't know squat about pitch issues either and I remember him trying to get a skier up on two boards once with that prop and it just wouldn't do it no matter how much he thrashed that thing up and down the lake. I would love to know what the pitch of that prop was.
 

pootnic

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Re: 4 blade and 3 blade propellers

a 14 foot alum.with a 40hp 15/17 pitch...your gonna be moving real nice...are you rated for a 40(probably with the center console)
 
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