FITCH motors...

RobDar

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I seem to remember coming across some websites/ posts awhile ago....which of course I cannot find now...about FITCH motor problems. Them having for a reputation for?????
was there something with the FITCH motors that they were known for having issues with or some common problems???
or is my memory failing me again?
 

mikesea

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Re: FITCH motors...

I think its FICHT,and yes,they had issues,such so,OMC went bankrupt and BOMBARDIER bought them over.Whether all the bad news on those was warranted,not 4 me 2 say.But I know there were many powerheads that blew.The design wasn't very friendly to the tinkering guy who did alot of his own work.The new ETEC is supposed to be awesome.Unfortunatly I'm to poor to buy one.
 

Hardcore

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Re: FITCH motors...

lots of blown power heads. the best indicator ive seen is the number of inexpensive almost new ficht motors in the local classifieds that have new rebuilds even though they are near new.

probably from the super low oil ratio.
 

HighTrim

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Re: FITCH motors...

Actually, the FICHT and E-Tec systems are very similar, although BRP would probably not like to have them associated.

First off the Ficht system. It is a direct injection system meaning that the fuel is injected directly into the combustion chamber when the piston is close to the top of its stroke. This concept is great for fuel economy, power, and emissions, but there are technical challenges with injecting fuel into a hot, highly compressed combustion chamber.

The Ficht system injects the fuel by energizing a solenoid that serves as a plunger. The plunger pushes on a column of fuel that is piped to an injector. So, the order of operations is that an electric current is sent to a solenoid which causes a plunger to push fuel into the combustion chamber. The plunger is returned to its original position by a spring. When the plunger is pulled back to its "rest" position, it is re-filled with fuel ready for the next cycle.

The big difference between Ficht & E-tec is that there is no spring in the E-tec system. The plunger is returned to its "rest" position by reversing the current through the solenoid which makes the plunger shuttle in the opposite direction.

The reversing polarity design does have several advantages to be sure, including the fact that the plunger can return to position faster, and it is quieter than the old spring system.

The E-tec system allows greater control of the solenoid that the Ficht system did, in fact my understanding is that during some running speeds and loads, the computer does not allow the plunger to travel its entire stroke, i.e. the current is reversed pulling the solenoid back. This allows the computer to not only control when the fuel is injected, but how much fuel is injected.

I suspect that the biggest advantage of E-tec over Ficht is the fact that lessons learned during the development of the technology were applied and the bugs of the system were worked out. The newer FICHTS are supposedly better than their predecessors, but cant say for certain. I do know they are a bugger to work on for the common back yard hack like myself, without any computerized analyzers.
 

emdsapmgr

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Re: FITCH motors...

The Ficht problems were generally centered around those produced by OMC through the 1999 model year. The problems were with their 60 degree engines and did not seem to be on the larger 90 degree blocks. OMC did put out a number of service bulletins/campaigns to improve their durability, through 1999. Unfortunately after many had already failed. OMC's 1999 bankruptcy did not help those customers with the 1999 and prior problems. Any Ficht which is 2000 and later, was produced under the Bombardier label and is a much improved engine.
 

MercGuy

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Re: FITCH motors...

Actually, the FICHT and E-Tec systems are very similar, although BRP would probably not like to have them associated.

First off the Ficht system. It is a direct injection system meaning that the fuel is injected directly into the combustion chamber when the piston is close to the top of its stroke. This concept is great for fuel economy, power, and emissions, but there are technical challenges with injecting fuel into a hot, highly compressed combustion chamber.

The Ficht system injects the fuel by energizing a solenoid that serves as a plunger. The plunger pushes on a column of fuel that is piped to an injector. So, the order of operations is that an electric current is sent to a solenoid which causes a plunger to push fuel into the combustion chamber. The plunger is returned to its original position by a spring. When the plunger is pulled back to its "rest" position, it is re-filled with fuel ready for the next cycle.

The big difference between Ficht & E-tec is that there is no spring in the E-tec system. The plunger is returned to its "rest" position by reversing the current through the solenoid which makes the plunger shuttle in the opposite direction.

The reversing polarity design does have several advantages to be sure, including the fact that the plunger can return to position faster, and it is quieter than the old spring system.

The E-tec system allows greater control of the solenoid that the Ficht system did, in fact my understanding is that during some running speeds and loads, the computer does not allow the plunger to travel its entire stroke, i.e. the current is reversed pulling the solenoid back. This allows the computer to not only control when the fuel is injected, but how much fuel is injected.

I suspect that the biggest advantage of E-tec over Ficht is the fact that lessons learned during the development of the technology were applied and the bugs of the system were worked out. The newer FICHTS are supposedly better than their predecessors, but cant say for certain. I do know they are a bugger to work on for the common back yard hack like myself, without any computerized analyzers.

Gee HighTrim, I couldn't have said it much better myself...

http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=217707

I guess imitation (i.e. plagiarism) is the most sincere form of flattery !!
 
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DJ

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Re: FITCH motors...

Good information given.

Yes, some were troublesome but let's not forget there are thousands of them out there that had no issues at all.

From what I've seen. They need to be set up right, use the right oil and clean fuel. With all of those, most could expect great performance and service.
 

RobDar

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Re: FITCH motors...

one of the used boats I am considering has a rebuilt ficht motor on it...
so I was curious.
 
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