57 35hp Javelin quirks?

freddyray21

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I bought one of these last fall that was sitting in a barn. Over the winter I resealed the lower unit and put a new impeller kit in it. I have started it briefly and it pumps water good and seems to run okay, but I am going to replace the coils and points anyway as I have no idea of their age and hate to found out in the middle of the lake they are shot. Does anyone know of anything I need to pay special attention to while tuning it up and getting it ready to run this year?
 

jay_merrill

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Re: 57 35hp Javelin quirks?

These are very solid motors and were made in various configurations for many years. Before you get into the ignition system though, you might want to ask the previous owner if he ever changed the coils and other ignition parts.

If you can't determine when the ignition system was last rebuilt, I think your idea to replace the coils and points is a good one. I would probably replace the condensors and spark plug wires while I had the flywheel off, as well. On all of these parts, however, I would look them over to see what condition they appear to be in. If the points show little or no signs of pitting, you can make a fair assumption that they were recently replaced. Most people replace the condensors at the same time, so they may be ok too. If the coils have any sign of cracking at all, replace them but if not, and the motor is running well, you may be ok for some time. You can also pull the coils and spark plug wires and take them to your local OMC/Bombardier dealer to have them tested. Aside from cracking/leakage issues, coils pretty much either work or don't work - there isn't much "in between."

Use either an OMC puller or a harmonic puller with schedule 8 bolts of the right size, thread count and thread depth to pull the flywheel. My personal preference is to use the OMC puller because it comes with exactly the correct bolts for a variety of OMC motors. While it is more expensive than the an auto parts store harmonic puller, you don't have to spend a bunch time fooling around at the local "big box" store trying to find the correct bolts. Do not use a gear puller or any other type of puller with jaws that pull from the ouside of the flywheel - OMC flywheels are aluminum and doing so can result in a broken part.

If your motor uses a pressure tank and you would like to go to a fuel pump/single line tank, this can be easily accomplished. There is a thread here at iboats describing a number of methods to install a fuel pump on these motors. My favorite way of doing this is to simply replace the upper bypass cover (port side of motor) with one from a later model 28hp or 33hp. This allows you to simply install a stock fuel pump on the cover as you would one of those motors. Once that is done, you change the fuel connector to a single line unit and you are ready to go.

Another issue with the '57 Johnson and Evinrude 35hp motors, is that the clutch dog is apparently different than in the later models. According to my OMC dealer, they are no longer available. If you ever have clutch dog problems though, don't automatically assume that you have a '57 lower unit on the motor. The later model LUs (not those from the "SuperQuiet" models) will fit your motor and it is common for the '57 models to have something other than a '57 LU on them.

I think the biggest headache with the older OMC electric start, 35hp models is getting a wiring assembly and dash plates/switches that are in good enough condition to use. On my '58 Evinrude Bigtwins, I just made a wiring harness and ran it into the cowl via the hole in the lower, front portion of the cowl pan. I also took the air silencers off of my motors and installed Mercury starter solenoids (they're smaller than OMC) in the pan to replace the solenoid that would normally be located in a box on the transom. That said, your motors are of the Javelin/Lark type so they are a bit more special and I could certainly understand wanting to keep them 100% stock.

Here's a site that might be of interst to you ....

"http://javelin1957.com/"

You realize, of course, that you now have to go out and buy a 50s vintage boat and restore it to go with your motor! :D
 

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Re: 57 35hp Javelin quirks?

Great site Jay.

This is my future boat, its current owner just doenst know it yet ;)

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Re: 57 35hp Javelin quirks?

Pretty much right on, Jay. However, I might just add that probably the biggest mistake made when working on those ignitions is not setting the coils-to-magnets clearance correctly. The ends of the coil's laminations must be flush with the machined edges of the posts upon which they sit.

The other most often made mistake is not installing the flywheel properly. The flywheel and crank tapers must be clean and dry and you must use a torque wrench and tighten the nut to 60-65 ft/lbs. Ignore this advice and wind up with a ruined flywheel and crankshaft!!
 

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Re: 57 35hp Javelin quirks?

the red arrow is where the front of the coil must line up. i crossed a 12 volt wire with a kill wire, this is what happen when the coils get hit with 12 volts.
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Re: 57 35hp Javelin quirks?

thanks for all the information. The previous owner did not know much about it only that is was an old motor. I have had the flywheel off to clean the points to get it running. FR you are so correct about the coils. The flywheel on this one showed wear from hitting the coil at one time. The flywheel also had a lock washer under the nut that I am sure did not belong there. I do have a vintage wooden boat this is going on.
 

freddyray21

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Re: 57 35hp Javelin quirks?

I am in the middle of building it from plans. www.sandeace.com mine is under original and it's Fred's. I am a bit farther along than it shows.
 

tashasdaddy

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Re: 57 35hp Javelin quirks?

the Javelin would have been my choice for that boat. totally classic.
 

freddyray21

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Re: 57 35hp Javelin quirks?

I rather lucked on it at a very good price. After some trading I have all the parts to the cowl so I am well pleased with it.
 

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Re: 57 35hp Javelin quirks?

One other quirk in regard to the late fifties 35hp OMC motors is the compression release assembly. If you open the engine cowl, you will see a stainless flatbar that goes from the top of the recoil starter to a rocker assembly on the engine's cylinder head. That rocker arm assembly opens two pop valves, one for each cylinder. The purpose of this mechanism is to reduce compression while hand starting the motor.

If you ever measure low compression values while testing the motor, this assembly may be responsible. Obviously, if the pop valves do not seat properly when the recoil starter is not being used, you will have compression problems.
 

freddyray21

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Re: 57 35hp Javelin quirks?

the starter works good and looks like it might have been replaced recently. The motor has good compression in both cylinders. I am waiting a little warmer weather to finish it and the boat up and get them both in the water.
 

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Re: 57 35hp Javelin quirks?

I just got back from a two hour effort to get my 57 Golden Javelin started. I got it after it sat in a garage for 15 years. It's a real beauty cosmetically, and by the look of the flywheel gears and etc., not used much. It seems to have a fuel starvation problem although there's plenty of fuel getting to the carb. While the mechanic and I were working on it, the timining seems to have changed (advanced) and it began struggling to turn over. It was not a weak battery. Now I have three problems, fuel starvation?, timing problems and, the mechanic couldn't remember how the jet adjustments that stick out of the front panel went back together. Arghh. I need someone who knows how to fix these things. I'm on the Northern CA coast. Any ideas?
 

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Re: 57 35hp Javelin quirks?

Welcome to iboats JXN

Start yourself a new thread, so the members here dont get confused, and Im sure you will get plenty of help.
 

jay_merrill

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Re: 57 35hp Javelin quirks?

The carb ob your motor is extremely simple - if your mechanic can't figure out how to adjust the needle valves, he/she is not who you want working on this motor. The same is true of setting the timing.

I'll look for your new thread on this and offer more info there.
 
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