Would this hull be worth getting?

[wildmaninal]

I ran up on a deal (maybe not such a deal) but it caught my attention, this 1991 25ft wellcraft cuddy I found is dirt cheap ($75). I have not seen this boat in person, there would be a little traveling involved but not much. It was involved in a storm and received damage to the hull. It doesn't have any outboard motors but has all the controls and interior, I figure if I got my hands on it it might be worth something in parts or it might be worth fixing up. Problem is it doesn't have a trailer and I would half to borrow or rent one for the time being to get it back home, I found a trailer for sale but it's not really the route I want to go at the moment.

Would it be for the effort to get this boat? Maybe even fix it up or part it out?

Any idea on how much this boat weigh?

I know it would be a PITA to get it up on a trailer, but it could be done.

 

[External Combustion]

Re: Would this hull be worth getting?

I'm a sucker with lots of tools. I also like giving things that I cannot use, but are usable to others, so here is my take.

See if you can offer a deposit on the trailer the the boat is currently on and bring it home. If not, then cabbage onto a friends trailer and do likewise.

At fifty bucks American, you can ultimately salvage out the hardware and recoup your losses.

I wish I had such an opportunity. The Sea Scouts would benefit with a new trainer!

 

[rndn]

Re: Would this hull be worth getting?

Not worth the effort in my humble opinion.

 

[Bondo]

Re: Would this hull be worth getting?

I'm a sucker with lots of tools.

Ayuh,.....

Personally,..... For $75.00,....
That looks Easily Repairable.........

Beg, Borrow, Rent, or Steal a Trailer,......
It might be 3500lbs. or Less without motors.....

 

[wildmaninal]

Re: Would this hull be worth getting?

Ayuh,.....

Personally,..... For $75.00,....
That looks Easily Repairable.........

Beg, Borrow, Rent, or Steal a Trailer,......
It might be 3500lbs. or Less without motors.....

The weight is what I was afraid of, I was very tempted to take an 18ft flat bed trailer and use pipes to role the boat up on it but keeping the boat from laying to one side or the other would be one of the problems. The other problem would be jacking it up off the ground, hopefully it isn't literally on the ground, if so it would be PITA to jack the boat up.

We have a tractor with a front end loader which might be a possibility of bringing that up and lifting the boat one end at a time, which it might be to bulky for the tractor to lift. the tractor is a 2150 John Deere.

The owner doesn't have the trailer, of course he sold it , I did ask if he had one that I could borrow with no avail.

Of coarse the owner wants to make it sound easy with winching the boat up onto whatever trailer I might have, he said he has had other customers do the same but you must have a really good working winch in order to get that big boat up on the trailer along with Popeye arms. I'll half to look at my uncle's boat trailer out back and see what it looks like tomorrow, I'm afraid it might be a single axle.

 

[tashasdaddy]

Re: Would this hull be worth getting?

i agree. but a bigger project than i would want. then trying to sell a big hull w/o a trailer and power is hard. you would have to put $20,000 to power it. but there are also sometimes big twins on ebay for reasonable prices.

we were typing at same time. flat bed won't work with out a crane. and you will have to block the hull. you ain't dry winching that thing on a trailer. i'd ask him to pay me to move it.

 

[wildmaninal]

Re: Would this hull be worth getting?

i agree. but a bigger project than i would want. then trying to sell a big hull w/o a trailer and power is hard. you would have to put $20,000 to power it. but there are also sometimes big twins on ebay for reasonable prices.

we were typing at same time. flat bed won't work with out a crane. and you will have to block the hull. you ain't dry winching that thing on a trailer. i'd ask him to pay me to move it.

I figured it wouldn't be easy to winch that thing up on any trailer. This boat is sitting on a sailboat sales lot from what I understand. The owner has to rent cranes to move the boats when needed, the cranes cost $300 a pop if I heard the man correctly. He understands that I wouldn't want to rent a crane.

Basically the same method we used on my bass boat is what we would use on the cuddy. Block the cuddy up at the bow far enough back to allow the trailer to catch it, if we had the tractor we could possibly lift the stern by straps or the boat might have hooks on the stern/transom. Use the tractor to push the boat up on the trailer, IF the tractor would lift it (that's a big if).

Which really we don't have the means of hauling the tractor because we just got the new motor running in the truck that normally would haul it and the motor still has some bugs to be worked out.

 

[Bondo]

Re: Would this hull be worth getting?

Basically the same method we used on my bass boat is what we would use on the cuddy. Block the cuddy up at the bow far enough back to allow the trailer to catch it,

Ayuh,......

The Absolute Worst that can happen,.....
Is a few more Dings,+ Scratches to Fix while you're already mixin' mud for the Rest of the Job.........

 

[wildmaninal]

Re: Would this hull be worth getting?

Ayuh,......

The Absolute Worst that can happen,.....
Is a few more Dings,+ Scratches to Fix while you're already mixin' mud for the Rest of the Job.........

I hear ya. I just thought of a person that might have a trailer that I might be able to borrow, the same man that I got my bass boat from just might have a trailer, I just might half to have my brother get in touch with him . He'll probably try and talk me out the of the Wellcraft though if I tell him about it , the man might want it for himself.

I'm just shooting in the dark right now on the trailer situation, that might be the only thing to stop me from getting the boat, well that and the loading situation.

How much would that boat be worth if it was fixed up?

At fifty bucks American, you can ultimately salvage out the hardware and recoup your losses.

EC I hear ya also man

 

[Bondo]

Re: Would this hull be worth getting?

How much would that boat be worth if it was fixed up?

Ayuh,....

On a boat like that,...
You'd be buying or selling the Motors bolted on the back.....

In other words,....
The Value of the Power,... Plus maybe a couple Grand.....

 

[fuzzeywiggler]

Re: Would this hull be worth getting?

If you are seriously thinking about getting this boat for $75 (a steal) why not buy a trailer becuase you will need one in the long run anways and why not save yourself the hassel of fixing up a trailer and a boat? Plus you know what you are getting with a new trailer. just my two bits.

Fuzzey

 

[wildmaninal]

Re: Would this hull be worth getting?

Ayuh,....

On a boat like that,...
You'd be buying or selling the Motors bolted on the back.....

In other words,....
The Value of the Power,... Plus maybe a couple Grand.....

I hear ya, so like TD said it could take $20,000 to repower, then just add $2000 on top of that. So if I was going to fix it up then I would basically be better fixing it up for myself. I believe this boat was used on Lake Guntersville, I'm not for sure, it could of came from gulf shores or around that area. I tried looking it up on NADA but couldn't find the style boat.

If you are seriously thinking about getting this boat for $75 (a steal) why not buy a trailer becuase you will need one in the long run anways and why not save yourself the hassel of fixing up a trailer and a boat? Plus you know what you are getting with a new trailer. just my two bits.

Fuzzey

I really don't know if it would be better parting it out or fixing it up, if I had the money to do it I would buy a trailer and go get the boat. I would hate to spend that money on the trailer then turn around and part the hull out. Which if it has all the goodies that I think it has on the boat it might bring some decent money just by parting it out.

 

[tashasdaddy]

Re: Would this hull be worth getting?

that's the problem, what does it still have, is it operable. how long has it sat? cables freeze up. condensation in instruments. it is a real long shot. like i said, he would have to pay me to move it. and i get the salvage.

 

[Lone Duck]

Re: Would this hull be worth getting?

Jump in your wheels and go look at it first. Take the family. Have a picnic & leave the wife to watch the kids and go have a look.

 

[cbavier]

Re: Would this hull be worth getting?

If you are seriously thinking about getting this boat for $75 (a steal) why not buy a trailer becuase you will need one in the long run anways and why not save yourself the hassel of fixing up a trailer and a boat? Plus you know what you are getting with a new trailer. just my two bits.

Fuzzey

Why not look around for a good used trailer. I bought an easy loader for $650
and the trailer was in pretty good condition. I refinished the trailer and now it looks as good as new.

 

[wildmaninal]

Re: Would this hull be worth getting?

Well like TD said I could get up there and find that it is a pile of junk all around. Unfortunately pictures will not show use whether or not something is functional, and you can't always trust the seller. As far as purchasing a trailer still I really would like to hold off on buying a trailer especially sense I don't know when (if I even get the boat) I don't know when I will be able to tackle the project.

He could be selling it for a tax right off, there has got to be a reason for him asking something for it, maybe something to do with the insurance. I don't know. I'm pretty sure he wouldn't go for paying me to haul it off.

It's not an Ebay special so I wouldn't be paying for it ahead of time then going to pickup the boat. I would be paying on site so that would be a little bit of a relief. I would love to see the boat in person and it might just happen, a couple of things need to fall in place first before I decide to make the trip.

Don't have a wife to take on the trip, might be a good thing I don't know lol. I could do another one to, if I don't get this boat I could always check into my uncles big boat that he has stashed away in the woods, but it's not a cabin cruiser/cuddy.

 

[watermellonI]

Re: Would this hull be worth getting?

How about putting a roller set up on your friends trailer instead of bunks? He might help with the cost of the rollers and the labor then you could easily load yer boat and when yer done your friend would have a good loading/unloading trailer

 

[cbavier]

Re: Would this hull be worth getting?

I ran up on a deal (maybe not such a deal) but it caught my attention, this 1991 25ft wellcraft cuddy I found is dirt cheap ($75). I have not seen this boat in person, there would be a little traveling involved but not much. It was involved in a storm and received damage to the hull. It doesn't have any outboard motors but has all the controls and interior, I figure if I got my hands on it it might be worth something in parts or it might be worth fixing up. Problem is it doesn't have a trailer and I would half to borrow or rent one for the time being to get it back home, I found a trailer for sale but it's not really the route I want to go at the moment.

Would it be for the effort to get this boat? Maybe even fix it up or part it out?

Any idea on how much this boat weigh?
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I know it would be a PITA to get it up on a trailer, but it could be done.

Just a suggestion. Could you go look at the Boat and if you want it pay for it then look for a trailer to haul it home. I mean leave it there untill you could find a trailer. It might be two trips but you said Quote "I have not seen this boat in person, there would be a little traveling involved but not much." Unquote

 

[tashasdaddy]

Re: Would this hull be worth getting?

go look at it. don't take any money, you can go to the ATM. i think what you are going to find is, 20 year old boat, with alot of deck damage, plus the holes in the side, it has sat in the weather, rain has gotten inside, you know what that does to stringers and deck. i really believe, it will cost you more to move the boat, than you will get out of salvage. if you really want to part it out. do it there, then cut the hull up and have a roll of dumpster coming and haul it off.