Glastron "real deal" pricing misleading....

[Rogue427]

Re: Glastron "real deal" pricing a joke......

Re: Glastron "real deal" pricing a joke......

AZLakes there keeping a very close I on you.

 

[mickjetblue]

Re: Glastron "real deal" pricing a joke......

Re: Glastron "real deal" pricing a joke......

Wait 3 months, and shop around again in July.
Then you'll be able to get a "real deal", and they won't mess around
with add-on fees. It's only 3 months away, and you'll be cooled off by then.

When sales are slow, selling games come into play, and the dealers will try
to max their profit on the sales that they do get. That's sales for new items.

If the item looks like it's going to still be there for another year, then the
entire game plan changes to your advantage. Good luck.

 

[ebry710]

Re: Glastron "real deal" pricing a joke......

Re: Glastron "real deal" pricing a joke......

Wait 3 months, and shop around again in July.
Then you'll be able to get a "real deal", and they won't mess around
with add-on fees. It's only 3 months away, and you'll be cooled off by then.

When sales are slow, selling games come into play, and the dealers will try
to max their profit on the sales that they do get. That's sales for new items.

If the item looks like it's going to still be there for another year, then the
entire game plan changes to your advantage. Good luck.

I couldn't agree more. Were are not blaming the dealer. It is my feeling that "the worse day fishing is better than the best day working" and the dealer is working. Sellers have a right to make profit. Glastron developed the "real deal" as marketing to sell more Glastrons. Nothing more. Challenging the deal and trying for a lower price is our right. Nothing personal.

 

[erlindbl]

Re: Glastron "real deal" pricing misleading....

I started this thing and I have already said I stand corrected on the dealer prep reference. To say that it is "clearly stated", however, is a stretch. I was not challenging the tax and license and I even figured in the price of the destination charge.

No one can tell me, if they look at that website, that the impression isn't given that when you price your boat that is what it goes for. I would like anyone to tell me what the dealer is going to do (Prep & fill out some papers) that is worth $905.00.

As far as the destination charge, they ask you your zip code when you fill out the form. If it costs more to get the boat to the west coast, it would take a programmer about 5 min to fix the program to calculate that extra cost. They don't do it because they want to get you in there before they spring it on you.

I would suggest to the company they take a que from Tahoe's website that has the same no haggle pitch. They allow you to click on a link and select the dealer so you can get the complete price for the dealer's prep and the freight charge for that specific dealer. That would eliminate the confusion and allow an honest comparison.....

My purpose in this was to alert people to the fact you can expect to add 1k on to the price of the real deal. I like the Glastron boats and have always wanted one. I was ready to buy and was taken aback when asked for the extra money. I accept the fact that I missed the fine print on the build part of the website.

 

[erlindbl]

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Final update..... I spoke to Bill today (last day of boat show) we acknowledged there was a breakdown in communication as to the dealer prep charges. I wasn't expecting them and he didn't understand that I did not realize the disclaimer was posted on the website. I'm sure he was thinking I was trying to low ball him and I was thinking he was trying to stick me with charges. Had I stayed around to talk about it we might have figured out the confusion.

Bottom line is we didn't come together on a price. That's what makes this country great. They are free to sell it at their price and I am free to buy it at what I think is fair.

There are no hard feelings on my part and I will keep on shopping....

 

[mickjetblue]

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You are not alone in the realization of shocking "total costs".
A month ago I was just about ready to buy a 40hp jet drive outboard motor
that I saw advertised on the internet for $4000 new. It was advertised from
a reputable super marine dealer. I asked about the total costs, and found out
that tax was a few percent additional, and that they wanted another $850
for prep and installation costs! I felt somewhat sour about that, and passed
on the purchase.

A month has passed, and I'm glad I didn't buy it. I made some adjustments
with my present motor, and it's working better than ever.

I'm sure you'll find a boat that will be the ideal boat for you, and you'll feel better
when you deal with salespeople who are "on the level" with costs.
You'll also enjoy your boat more, because the purchase was not a bitter
experience.
Good luck!

 

[ebry710]

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Yup. Next good choice. There will be more.

 

[orion25]

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Bottom line is we didn't come together on a price. That's what makes this country great. They are free to sell it at their price and I am free to buy it at what I think is fair.

There are no hard feelings on my part and I will keep on shopping....

True capitalism at work. Call him back in 3 months and see if the deal has changed. You can rent a boat for about $100 per day plus gas (at least around here) until then and possibly still come out ahead. Or see if he will throw in the PFD's, dock lines, fenders, anchor, skis, wakeboard, etc.

The way it was explained to me when I bought my boat, dealer prep is mounting the outdrive and prop, detailing the boat, and filling any necessary fluids............. Not worth more that the $250 I negotiated down to in my mind.

 

[Shawn_floats]

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I have a MAJOR issue with any dealer charging extra for things that fundamentally should be part of the purchase price.

For example, charging to mount the outdrive and fill the fluids, and clean it up are such motherhood items, that they should not be considered "extra".
These are items that a dealer is fundamentally responsible for.
If it's a cost, then the manufacturer and the dealer need to find a way to make that transparent to the customer.

I've bought several new vehicles, and in every case, the purchase price was the purchase price. They didn't charge me extra to detail it, mount tires or get it ready for pickup. They have managed to find a way to make that transparent to me as a customer. I don't mind paying for things that have been built to the ONE price in as part of the dealer responsibilities - but to show them as additional and separate charges - well, that just doesn't sit well with me.

If that's the case, why not just ship the boat directly from the manufacturer in shrink wrap right to the customers house.

RV and Boat dealers still have a ways to go IMHO.

 

[fishmen111]

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As long as people pay accessory charges, they will be added. There is a wiser bunch on this forum. Most people do not even question the extra cost because they are used to it regardless of the product or service. Change is slow.

 

[ebry710]

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We are all salesmen or buyers one time or another. Most of us want to sell "whatever" for more than it worth and as buyers we want it for free.

As Michael Douglas once said "greed is good"
As Orion25 said "True capitalism at work".

True capitalism is the compromise of the greed (or need) of one person with the greed (or need) of another.

 

[erlindbl]

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As I said earlier in an earlier post, it wasn't the dealer prep money that got me. It was the fact that I did not see it on the website and the salesman wasn't aware I didn't know it was there that caused the original problem.

If the dealer has to pay an employee to finish an install I think it's only fair he should be compensated. It would make more sense to me if that was figured into the original price of the boat since it should theoretically be the same for all of them. When I went to the show, I had figured the price of the boat from the website and went there thinking I new exactly what it was going to cost me. Once I was hit with the extra my first reaction was I was getting screwed.

Glastron is a major company that makes highly regarded boats. They are the only company I have found who have an 18 foot ski boat with an E-TEC. They are going to sell the boats. It would make sense to me to offer (as Tahoe does) the ability to price the boat with the dealer prep charges included. That way you would know exactly what you were going to pay for the boat. They were on track with the no haggle idea. They just need to take it one step further.

 

[ebry710]

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I never mixing manufacturing with marketing. It is not the line worker or manufacturing facility that forget to underline the fees. It was the marketing people. Was it an oversight, who knows. Does it sound a little suspicious, kinda does, considering it probably took months to come up with the marketing strategies, materials, campaign slogans, print, dealer training etc. Is it a good boat? Yes. Did they change your problem once you pointed it out to them? No.