Handheld GPS Help

creeks

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I currently have a Garmin76. I would like a unit that show a little more detail than just my route. I'm guessing I would like to see the chart or map layout. Would like to stay handheld. Will be using mainly inshore occasionally out to the Jetties.
 

JB

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Re: Handheld GPS Help

Go to Garmin and take a look at the 76MAP units. I really like the 76CxS. Were I in the market for a handheld that would be my first choice.

I use a 276C and the CD for recreational lakes. I also have extra plug in cards for different areas. I use it more in my vehicle than in the boat or hiking, so I have the auto navigation software in it, too. It is pretty large and heavy for a handheld, but it serves all three applications well, though none perfectly.
 

eurolarva

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I have an H2O and really like it. Whatever you choose spend time looking around. Cheaper units might not have card slots, how hard is it to read in the daytime in bright sun light and how fast does it suck down batteries. Is the screen too small, how long does it take to lock on to satellites. I can get a good GPS signal in the basement of my house. Maybe test a few out at the store before you purchase one.
 

tnduc

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Re: Handheld GPS Help

I've been really happy with my Lowrance Ifinder H2O. It is loaded with a basic map that shows channel markers, islands, etc...
 

Jerico

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I have the H20 too and have been very happy with it. I went with the black & white display to save the $ and spent the difference on the map software. Battery life has been pretty good, it has a cigarette lighter adapter if I want to use that. The base maps are okay for the basics. With the map software the detail is greatly improved.
 

Boatist

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I have both the Garmin GPSMAP 76 and the Lowrance IFinder H2O C.
My Garmin GPSMAP 76 is a older unit and came with all the navigation aids for the USA. The new units even the color units do not come with the navigation aids on the base map. You must buy the upgrade map. You might want to check this as I have not looked at since last summer when I was looking for a better unit.

The unit works perfecly and is very accurate, most of the time about 30 feet.
The things I like better than the Lowrance unit is the batteries are easier to change.
The things I do not like is the screen is very dim. In the car if driving must get the unit in direct sun light or you can not see the screen and read in the time you have to take your eyes off the road. If you are a passenger you can find an angle where you can see the screen and have time to look close.
At night with the light on it is easy to read.
Also the unit is very slow to redraw the screen any time you turn in track up mode or if you zoom in or out.
If you want a lighter power cord it is $35

The Lowrance IFinder H2O C
The things I like better about the Lowrance unit is in the car or in the boat under the top it is bright and easy to read with the light on.
The screen redraws at least twice as fast because it has a dual processor. It also finds a postion faster but that is not a big deal.
The unit has all the Navigation aids for the USA on the base map and the base map is more detailed than the Garmin.
When I bought my H2O C last year I took two batteries with me to verify it worked before I left the store. I put them in while at the register and the unit found a 3D position before the clerk finished ringing me up. I did not think too much about it as had a glass window acrossed the front of the store.
When I got home found the Wife and got the old Garmin GPSMAP 76 and the new Lowrance Ifinder H2O C and sat down on the bed next to her to show her the new unit. I turned both on to show her the difference in screen brightness as that was the main reason I wanted to buy another unit.
To my suprise the Lowrance found 4 Satellites inside the house and has a 3 d postion. The Garmin found no Satellites.
The Lowrance Ifinder H2O C comes with a FREE lighter power cord.
Next I took both units outside in the yard where I have a big tree and since it was june and hot I stood in the shade of the tree. The Lowrance found a position right away and the Garmin finally did also but only saw half as many satelites and form time to time would say lost postion. I moved out from under the tree in full sunlight and both units worked good. The Lowrance has 16 channels for satellites also and the garmin has 12 which I think is plenty.

Another thing I like about the Lowrance is when setting a waypoint you can set quickly just like the Garmin or you can set where it takes as many samples as you want to wait for. Lets say you wait for 15 postion samples, then when you set it averages all the samples together so you get and even more accurate location.
The Lowrance unit Has a place for a SD Card as well.
The Lowrance is also Cheaper but the batteries are harder to change.

I did not think I would do it but I bought the Lowrance Map Create 7 DVD and Card reader writer for $89. Also a 1GB SD card for $14 and loaded all the maps for California, and Nevada and it took 450 MB to save to SD card. This map has more information than I need but has some information I wanted. It has local names of places that are not on the paper charts. As an example I always here people saying fishing at Mcclures Beach or Driftwood Beach or Elephant Rock. Well I know where Elephant rock was because you can see it from sea and it looks just like a Elephant, also I knew about where it was. The Map has lots more information than I want like restrants, motel and stuff like that that I will turn off. Also has all the streets for the entire area I set up. It does not have depth readings but does have conture lines. Also has hiking trails and elevations.
The main reason I bought the card reader and map is it comes with a program where your can type in all the waypoints from my old Gps and Loran C insteading of keying in with the buttons on the GPS it self.

Go to a store that has both the Garmin GPSMAP 76 C and the Lowrance IFinder H2O C and compare screen brightness and resoultion, Speed and sensitivy, also base map detail.

By the way both Lowrance and Garmin have units the include more options like a MP3 player, Electronic Compass, Barometic altimeter, ect. For me I find them unnessary and just clutter up the screen.
Electronic Compass some may want that but for me I have a compass on the boat and when hiking the unit will display compass and heading after you take 3 or four steps. both will also give you a steering indicator or pointer.

Barometic altimeter is more accurate if you set the barometic pressure before going out but if you see 4 or more satellites you will get a elevation to within about 100 feet anyway. That more than accurate enough for me.

Have fun shopping and tell us what you buy.
 

JB

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Excellent comparison and analysis, Boatist. Almost enough to overcome my brand loyalty. :)
 

eurolarva

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The reason for the difficulty in the battery change out of the H2O is because it is water tight and with some batteries will float in water. If water does not get into the battery compartment and it floats the unit will not short out or be ruined if accidentally dropped in the lake. H2O colors are also awesome units however will suck batteries in about an hour versus 10 to 12 hours on the black and white units.
 

Boatist

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JB I like the Garmin units also that why I bought my first GPS from them. Other than the Dim Screen for in the car I am very happy with the GPSMAP 76.

It was last summer I went to get a color unit that I was very disappointed. I went in to look at the GPSMAP 76 C and thought it was what I wanted. When I compare units I always look at a area I know very well to see what details it has. First thing I noticed was no buoys so ask the clerk how do you turn on the Buoys. He replied you have to buy the upgraded maps to get Buoys. Then I noticed the map details much worse also. So I started looking at other units and all the Lowrance unit form the cheapest to the most expensive came with bouys and more detailed base maps.

From that point on I have not been able to find Garmin that I like as well as the same size Lowrances. The shops I went to all seem to be pushing Garmins. When I ask why most said seems to be better quality. When I pointed out not as bright, no Navigation aids, and not as detailed base map and cost more they said you have to buy the maps for all the units. Then I said execpt for all the lowrance units you have. Some did not seem to know what the lowrance units had. My gut tell me they make more money off the Garmin units and that is why they push them.
 

Tacklewasher

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I've got the iFInder Expedition, which is the H2O with the electronic compass and barometer. Price difference was very little (I bought off eBay) otherwise I would have been fine with the H2O.

Colour screen makes all the difference in the world. Especially with the higher detail maps. I've got the Canada topo and they are very good. Can find all the little lakes I flyfish.

I found them to be less expensive than the comparable Garmin and maps.
 

BillP

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Garmin has a $38 adapter cord to connect the 76 with your pc serial port...it's another option for electronic charting. The only thing about "detailed" charts on a handheld is they are very "busy" to see on a small screen. You have to zoom far in and viewing that close takes proximity away from other points. You may want to check that before jumping in and buying only for more chart detail. Screen size makes a big difference with charting. I personally prefer a running with only a bare plotter screen and waypoints on handhelds...it's less tendous to view and I can stay zoomed out and still see destination wps without searching though clutter.

I currently own a Lowrance handheld and bought it because has the best graphics and is much easier to see than Garmin in any light. Lowrance also invented the 12 channel receiver and has always been better at picking up gps signals under heavy cover. It's more difficult to operate than a Garmin though...which is still typical when comparing the two brands today on any of their electronics. The quality with Garmin FAR surpasses Lowrance though, and that's why shops that sell both brands lean toward Garmin. The return rate of defective Lowrance products FAR outnumbers Garmin. Their customer service is also far behind Garmin. It's not even debatable to who makes a more reliable product.

With that said, I've personally never had a problem with Lowrance and owned several of their products (over the last 30 yrs) but that was "then". Today it's a "different" company but I'd probably still buy from them. I'd be way more cautious on choosing brands by whether reliability was going to be a safety issue or just an inconvenience though. My handheld was purchased for flying and Garmin would get the nods next time for that...without a doubt.

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