Weekly oil poll

Knot Waiting

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At what point do you think the price of gasoline will have an irrepairable impact on the boating community? How do you think habits will change?

90% of us depend on fuel for our recreation [omit the fossil free few: External Combustion, etc] and I know we are all feeling the pinch. It hasnt affected my desire to be on the water yet but I worry that soon there will be less and less people to boat with. What then becomes of the surplus of un-used boats?
 

levittownnick

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Re: Weekly oil poll

I can tell you that it has an impact on me. I am definately cutting my use of my boat to a minimum. The only reason I'm not selling my boat is that if I decide to go back to boating after selling my boat, I will not be able to afford to buy a new boat. I really don't feel like going to a sail boat again.
 

thurps

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Re: Weekly oil poll

You could change boat to RV and you will have a good idea. I have a 5th wheel I'm practally going to have to give away.
 

tommays

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Re: Weekly oil poll

Trust ME i just droped off a SAIL for a repiar and i can not BELIEVE how many boats are OUT of the water in Centerport which is a wealthy area
 

jay_merrill

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Re: Weekly oil poll

I think that the attraction towards boats, as a means of both relaxation and recreation, is too strong for people to move away from them entirely. What I am seeing in my area, however, is larger (over 18 feet) boats for sale at bargain prices.

I spend a lot of time on the water (2 - 3 times a week) doing wildlife & scenic photography and I am definately "feeling" the higher fuel prices. I used to plan on burning 10 - 12 gallons per outing and now try to limit consumption to 6 gallons per outing. One of the ways that I hold the fuel burn down is to plan my photo shoots more carefully. I used proceed to the planned photo area and then cruise a bit to find new locations/subject matter. Those exploratory cruises would sometimes result in more photos on the same day but, at other times, I might return later.

What I see myself doing now is to buy a 12 - 14 foot, aluminum flatboat to put one of my smaller outboards on. By doing so, I could scout new locations at a much reduced fuel burn. I would take a camera to grab a few shots of opportunity, but would most often return in the bigger boat because it allows me to walk around on a stable platform, to get better and more shots.

The high cost of fuel has also affected my decisions in regard to the volunteer search and rescue operations that I participate in. At 2:30 this morning, I declined a search because my contribution probably would have been marginal (a car off of a bridge in a navigational canal, resulting in a very limited search area) and the Coast Guard told me that they would have several units in addition to local law enforcement boats, on the scene. In times past, I would have launched on the theory of more boats providing a higher chance of quick recovery. Now I have to carefully weigh that as a realistic theory in a specific case, because the more I burn fuel unproductively, the less I can particpate in searches where extra boats and knowledge of the local waters provides real benefit.


PS: A single body was found by divers inside of the car at 11:00 this morning. The bridge involved opens for canal traffic by having the center section raise straight up, unlike the typical draw bridge, where two halves tilt up. According to one witness, who almost drove off of the bridge also, the warning/barrier gates didn't activate, and several drivers didn't see that the bridge was in the raised position in the dark. All but the one vehicle managed to stop in time. This info is sort of off topic but, hopefully, it will serve as useful information for us all when driving - watch out for those bridges!
 

JB

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Re: Weekly oil poll

Impact? The cost of energy has already had an impact. It has made poor helpless victims out of too many people.

People will adapt, after they get over being poor helpless victims and become survivors. They will find ways to boat if they want to boat badly enough, but they aren't likely to do it burning 5-10 gallons an hour.

I boated without petroluem products for several years and I can do it again. I also boated for 20-30 years with under 20HP outboards. I can do that again, too. My favorite outboard ever was a little 1964 Johnson JW-20 3 HP. I could fish all day and cover about half of Occoquan Lake on about a quart of gasoline. . . well, maybe 3 pints.
 

Scaaty

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Re: Weekly oil poll

Depends where you are at on the economic ladder.
Guys in the 50 foot, 100mph thunderboats off South Beach..? Not a bit of worry.
But the average guy or girl, which most of us are, are for sure cutting back.
I am least, as the Pension only goes so far, and still 4 years until SS kicks in. My 25 footer for sale, zero bites on a giveaway price. It usually goes in the slip 4th July for 2-3 months, but probably leave it on the trailer.
Use my 20 footer 125 Cuddy, with the 5hp kicker that will see a lot more use.
Toss the 15 foot OB dragboat in for a few hours, but probably just leave it on the trailer, sit at our boat launch, and "Dockside" chat.
Or, just pull one of my 2 (Weedless 3hp) out of Pickle. and dig the rowboat out. Just as much fun.
This gas thing is far from over, and all the trickle down effects are yet to be seen...but they don't look good to me. People here in the PNW have had a cool/wet spring, and recreational boats are just hitting the water.
They go get those 4 "5 gallon" cans in the truck, hit the pump, fill up and look an $80 bill, then reality will hit when looking at an average hour on the water at $20 just for gas. Know more Memorial day weekend. Our marina now is half empty slips...and all are leased to someone here.
 

rolmops

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Re: Weekly oil poll

The price of oil will not change my boating habits.I burn at most 6 gallons during an outing.It will change what lakes I will be fishing because of travel distances involved.
2 other things are changing my boating habits.For one,my youngest son is 16 now and would rather hang out with friends than fish with dad and my second daughter's education, which involves a lot of travel, is sucking the money out of my wallet faster than any fuel price increase can.
 

PW2

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Re: Weekly oil poll

My boating has changed to this extent. I enjoy salmon fishing, and used to do the drive to DeTour, Mi for late spring-mid summer salmon fishing. It's 140 miles round trip from home to the launch and back.

There is other fishing closer to home, including an Atlantic Salmon run that I am going to learn how to fish. There's very little running necessary with my 50 hp, and the 6 hp kicker will run practically all summer on a 6 gal tank of gas. The chinook salmon show up here locally from mid August till late September, and I guess I'll let them put in the travelling.

It certainly is not the end of the world.
 

642mx

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Re: Weekly oil poll

Its not affecting me yet. I just bought my boat and its only been out once! :(
 

pwrplay

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Re: Weekly oil poll

It won't affect me too much, I'll probably just spend more time at my destination then just cruising around. It'll probably also force me to spend more time at swimming spots closer by enjoying the day. And also cut back on the tubing all day ( big gas guzzler activity) LOL

If you are a true boater you will surely find ways to continue to do it. I myself have cut back on other entertainment such as dinners out and movies so that I can put gas in the boat.

I think in a few years we will see the boating manufacturers spending more on R&D to make boating more fuel efficient.

One area I can see becoming more popular are pod drive systems available for smaller sized cruisers, once the production prices start coming down, this will become a more viable and fuel efficient option.

Diesel may become more popular ( which then becomes cheaper to buy), even though Diesel fuel maybe more expensive then Gas at the pumps, it's the 40% increase in fuel economy that makes it a viable alternative, not to mention the dependability of Diesels will help the pocket book too.

All in all if it gets that bad, hell I'll just sit at the dock, drink a few beers and hangout with my marina pals!
 

kenmyfam

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Re: Weekly oil poll

Will probably do a little less tubing and skiing this season with the exception of our family vacation at the cottage with all the children and their significant others and my parents coming over from England to be with us this year.
The gas / 2 stroke oil bill is always huge as the boat hardly sees the dock while we are away. This year it will be a lot more but I will not limit the usage while on vacation.
I am more concerned with the beer, wine and liquor bill this year !!!! as all our chidren are of age.
 
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