will van tow boat alright?

jeff6898

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Does anyone know if a 1991 Oldsmobile Silhouette van will pull a 16ft bass/ski boat and do alright at the boat ramp? I can not find anywhere what the towing capacity of this van is.
 

tashasdaddy

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Re: will van tow boat alright?

what motor? call chevy dealer service or parts department. they had the same van.
 

MikDee

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If it has the 3.8 V6, I'd say it's safe to about 3000lbs, the 3.1 V6 probably 2500lbs, It won't even know the 16' bass boat is back there! ;) Gimme a few mins, I'll see what I can find on it.
 

MikDee

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Here's the best I can find, this link should help:

OLDSMOBILE
Vehicle Engine Tow Limit (lbs)
Bravada 4.3 V-6 5,000a
Silhouette 3.4 V-6 3,500b
a = Weight-distributing platform hitch recommended when
exceeding 3,500 pounds
b = Requires towing package.

http://trailmanor.com/WebDocs/Camping-Towing/TowRatingPDF/2001.pdf

Sorry, these previous ratings were for 2001 vehicles.
Here's the one for your vehicle:
http://www.campinglife.com/towratin...model=Silhouette&min_tlimit=0&max_tlimit=2500
 
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jeff6898

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Re: will van tow boat alright?

Thanks for the info sounds like it would do just fine. Looks like it should pull the boat out of the water and up the ramp woth out a problem. Thanks once again
 

jeff6898

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Re: will van tow boat alright?

Well thought I was doing good. My friend just informed me though that you can't use a front wheel drive vehicle to tow a boat. He said a front wheel drive vehicle would not be able to pull a boat out of the water.
 

JB

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Your friend is just another know-it-all, Jeff.

You will be okay.
 

tashasdaddy

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i have launched and towed many boats with front wheel drive. you actually can have better traction, as you have the engine weight on the wheels. just watch it in soft sand. they will bury the front end.
 

jeff6898

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WOw now I really am stuck at what to do. I could get this van cheap. JUst hate to buy it spend money on a hitch then find out I can't pull the boat up the ramp. From what I am reading here though sounds like I shouldn't worry.
 

Zamboni

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Re: will van tow boat alright?

I pull and launch a 16.5 at numerous launches all over Ontario with a Toyota Sienna van-pulling boat up the ramps is never even close to being a problem. like posted, the engine weight on the wheels really helps....so does the front wheels being dry.

You will have no problem whatsoever, never even spin the wheels unless I forget the parking brake was on.
 

dorelse

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I tow my 18ft Glastron with our Kia Sedona. It hasn't had an issue on gravel or cement ramps pulling the boat out. You'll be fine.
 

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I have a 19' boat that with it all loaded, max fuel and max gear and max people, I am just under the max weight, and the tow limit. I can tell you with the FWD SUV I use, I have trouble at step to semi steep ramps. The only thing that helps is to get a little momentum before the full weight is on the tow. And yes, I have had to have a couple guys sit on the hood with me to get up. We are shopping for a new tow vehicle that will be AWD or rear. Also have thought about a WD hitch to help.
 

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Did your friend ever tow a boat? Front wheel drive is at a disadvantage on steep/slippery/slimy ramps but it does not mean you will get stuck every tiime you retrieve. Good tires with an agressive tread will help. Try it before you run out and buy a new vehicle that you may not need.
 

BF

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As far as just pulling on the highway...

I have a '94 Transsport with 3.8L 4 spd, pulls my 16' aluminum fine. I also have an '03 Montana 3.4L 4 spd, also pulls fine. (Neither transmission will tow in 4th, both need to be in 3rd for the highway...) that drops fuel economy by about 20-25%.

I had a '94 Transsport with 3.1L and 3 spd. It would also tow fine, but the 3.1 didn't have as much zip as the 3.8 or 3.4. The 3 spd tranny was good... better than the 4 speed for towing. Lost some economy (when not towing) on the highway b/c of lack of OD, but it shifted better than the 4 speeds and didn't "hunt around" at all. I never felt I was hurting that tranny by doing light towing with it. With the 4 speeds, it would be easy to overheat them by pulling in 4th. If you don't have a tach in the dash, you might never know that the torque converter was constantly locking and unlocking...

Now as for pulling up the ramp... my personal experience says it depends on the ramp.

I have successfully launched and retrieved my 16' aluminum with them, from a variety of paved ramps with no excitement. However, steepish ramps with either gravel or gravel/mud mix are a problem. It is a PITA that the ramp at my home lake (where we have a cabin) is like that. I can launch OK, and if the ramp is dry, and you avoid wheel spin, it will manage to get back up the hill with the empty trailer. But when retrieving, it will spin/slide and dig holes before it'll pull even my light boat up. FYI, traction control is of no use in this respect... my '03 has it, and it's the exact same as my older ones were.

It is bad enough that even in ideal conditions at my home lake (not wet, boat empty), I'll either get someone with a truck to pull it out for me, or expect that I'll need to ask a neighbour to come to the ramp and give my van a slight tug with their 4x4 to get up the ramp. It doesn't take much, but it does need help.

The fact that I can't launch/retrieve independently on my own lake is a major bug to me... I'd like a crew cab 4x4 or suburban, but with today's (and tomorrow's) fuel prices I don't think I can bear changing to that. My montana gets great mileage. I have toyed with the idea of either buying or making some kind of "traction mats" or welded grippers a few feet long to lay in front of the wheels... It needs so little help, that I'm sure it wouldn't take much of an increase in traction for it to work. Maybe deflating the tires to about 10 psi would do it?

Anyway that's my experience with those.... if the ramps are paved, you're probably fine.... BTW, those huge dashes are great for bringing home extra-large pizza's. :) I always say the look like big dustbusters.
 

jevery

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I?ve towed with a front wheel drive Toyota minivan rated for 3,500 lbs for over two years now. Class III hitch and airbags in rear springs to control rear height. I frequent about a dozen lakes, mostly Corps of Engineer lakes in Oklahoma and Arkansas. Ramps in this area are all corrugated concrete. First boat towed with this vehicle was a 17 ft Crestliner with Mercury 115 4-stroke, (no trailer brakes), at around 2500 lbs loaded. More recently have been towing an 18-1/2 ft Ranger with Yamaha 150 at around 3,300 lbs loaded, (with brakes). Never have had difficulty retrieving either boat from the water, and have used some very steep ramps wet and dry. Never had a tire spin. Some of the ramps have been algae covered where the water meets the ramp, but front drive wheels are well above the slick area. Only real issue has been the lack of brakes on the first boat significantly increasing braking distance. The only circumstances that would persuade me to go to an alternate ramp would be a wet smooth asphalt ramp, but I?ve never seen one around here.

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roadrunnr

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Re: will van tow boat alright?

Jeff:
I thought I'd throw my .02 worth in here. I've towed my old 17' Maxum with an 85 hp outboard with both a Ford Windstar and a Toyota Sienna for over 12 years and have yet to have a problem pulling it out out of the water. I don't believe I've even had a tire spin pulling it out of any launch. Both vans are rated at 3500 towing capacity and the boat + trailer is under 2500. As long as your well under the maximum towing capacity, which I believe you should be regardless of your tow vehicle, you'll be fine.
 
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