'91 50 hp tilt/trim stuck

BF

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Hi... I just got off the phone for my Dad, he was trying to ready his boat to go out and try fishing for the first time this year. He has a problem so I'm posting a Q for him...

'91 Merc with power t/t... trim worked fine when put away last fall. Now trim motor makes noise, but no movement of the t/t in either direction. Motor is trimmed mostly, but not all the way, down. He (and buddy) tried to lift motor while applying up trim, wouldn't budge.... Same for pushing down on the skeg while trying down trim. There is no sign of t/t fluid leakage. This is the type of unit that is completely on the engine, not with the pump in the boat.

So, there is a warning on the unit not to remove the cap while the engine is lowered because fluid is under pressure.... but given that it is stuck down, maybe it's stuck because there isn't fluid in there (?) in which case maybe he should loosen the cap and see if fluid seeps out. If not, remove it and fill as much as possible (?).

Any other thoughts? How do these things normally fail? Are there small openings inside there that might get gummed up with crud if the t/t fluid has never been changed?

Kind of a bummer because he just bought the boat off a friend of his over the winter... he hasn't even had it out (as the owner) yet. BTW, he knows it was OK in the fall because he borrowed it a few times last year, and it was my Dad who changed out the lower unit oil before winter.

thanks for your $.02
 

j_martin

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Re: '91 50 hp tilt/trim stuck

Unless there's a puddle under it, it probably didn't lose the oil. There is a screw on it somewhere (should be in the same instructions that said not to remove the fill cap when it's down) called the manual tilt or release or something like that. It is there to relieve the hydraulics so you can manually get the engine up for transport.

There must be a valve stuck. I haven't had one apart, but others here have. They'll speak up soon, I'm sure.
 

James R

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Re: '91 50 hp tilt/trim stuck

Most tilt trim systems have a release valve to allow manual up and down.
Look at the right side of the tansom mount and you will see an access hole thru the casting. There is what looks like a plug in there. Probably has a hex head and a screwdriver slot in it and it is probably plastic. Carefully unscrew it a couple of turns and see if you can lift and lower the motor. Dont try to remove this valve or big problems will ensue. This may free up the system.
 

BF

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Re: '91 50 hp tilt/trim stuck

thx... will pass the info on. Aside from releasing the pressure in the system and allowing manual tilt of the motor, is this the same valve that might have stuck, or is there another valve in the motor/reservoir itself ? It appears that there might not be anything servicable/fixable in the tilt/trim motor itself... is that right?

If it were taken to a shop, what would they do, just R/R the tilt trim motor?
 

James R

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Re: '91 50 hp tilt/trim stuck

The valve I spoke of has no moving parts. It simply closes off the ports when screwed in and opens to bypass when screwed out.
 
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