Sources of evil

[mainexile]

I don't pretend to be holier-than-thou, and I certainly pulled my share of pranks and practical jokes in earlier days. But after reading the post below about spikes in the lake, I started thinking about what might cause a person to do such a vile thing. Where do they learn things like that? And then I remembered the online article I read this morning:

http://www.wmur.com/newsarchive/16930417/detail.html

Now the damages may not have been severe, but I have to wonder if the exposure to all these "blood and guts", extreme violence video games hasn't affected the mind of the young woman in the article as well as of many of today's youths. I'm reminded of the premise in Stanley Kubrick's "A Clockwork Orange" where the young man is subjected to horrendous violence for hours on end before being turned loose on an unsuspecting public. I know that there are people out there (and probably some in here) who will profess that video games are harmless, but I will never be convinced that if anyone, particularly someone in their developmental years, is constantly exposed to the violence I've seen in some video games my stepsons have played, that person's sense of propriety and humanity will be denegrated. BTW, if they were my sons, they wouldn't have been allowed to have that trash in the house.

Sorry for the rant. It just really upsets me that someone could stoop so low as to set a horrible trap like the lake spikes. And while I may be wrong, I'll bet a dollar and a doughnut that if the perp(s) is/are caught, he/they are misguided youths who have also spent their share of time playing graphically violent video games.

 

[tashasdaddy]

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they have been used in gorilla warfare for centuries. history books, Nam movies. it everywhere.

 

[thefairlaneman]

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My guess is some property owner near by doesnt like the boats in "HIS LAKE"

 

[Bob_VT]

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I agree w/Fairlaneman... it was probably someone who hated boats and jet ski's I hope they find the people involved.

As far as your other article it is not uncommon for siblings to fight but they took it to another level.....

I think the child abuses and domestic violence are the worst crimes in our world today.

 

[JB]

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The only difference between mischief and evil is in the mind of the perpetrator. The damage done is the same.

 

[CN Spots]

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Hmmm... I played military aircraft simulations a lot...

I'm no better a pilot because of them.

 

[bootle]

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I for one am utterly convinced that humans are the low lifes on this planet.
When one looks at our history, the evidence is most convincing.

 

[avenger79]

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we had a recent killing here, they are saying a young man watched natural born killer and then murdered his girlfriend.
long stretch I would think but I guess they can find a connection to understand how it happened

 

[CN Spots]

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He also probably ate dinner and took a dump before killing her... Why didn't they list those as preludes to homicide?

A killer is a killer no matter what he watched, drove, ate or the weapon he chose. He'll lose that argument in court when they bring up the tens of millions of other people who watched it and didn't feel compelled to off somebody.

 

[QC]

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Agree with Spots. Quit trying to find reasons other than evil itself. I let my kids play some of those games. So what? I also tell them that the most important thing to me and their mother is how they treat others. Grades, money, stuff all fall a distant second. The difference is whether or not these children and adults know and respect the difference between right and wrong, not what influences them to do what they know is wrong. They still know it, and choose to do it . . .

"There are only two races, the decent and the indecent", Dennis Prager. It is so damn simple.

 

[Maclin]

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I hope they told everybody they care about where the spikes are, sometimes things like that come back around.

 

[mainexile]

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Agree with Spots. Quit trying to find reasons other than evil itself. I let my kids play some of those games. So what?....

I debated whether a response to your reply was warranted, and I decided that, yes, a response is warranted. So let me ask this: Would you allow your 12-year old to watch a movie showing two people naked in bed depicting copulation? I think not. And why not? Because you don't want him or her imitating that behavior until he/she is mature enough to process the information responsibly. So why would you let a 12-year old play a video game that is patently violent? What's the difference? He/she is still not mature enough to process the information responsibly.

 

[Bass Man Bruce]

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I for one am utterly convinced that humans are the low lifes on this planet.
When one looks at our history, the evidence is most convincing.

Nah, just think Einstien, Madame Curie, Martin Luther King Jr., Plato, Louis Pastuer, Susan B. Anthony, Gandi, Nelson Mandela, Pope John Paul II, The Wright Brothers, Sojourner Truth, Abe Lincoln, St. Joan Of Ark, The Dali Lama, Jesus Christ, Harriet Tubman, Schindler, Anne Frank, 9-11 responders, any 911 EMT, Winston Churchill, Jacques Cousteau, Jane Goodall, Tolstoy, Rembrandt, Michelangelo, Mother Teresa, Leonardo Davinci, USA Armed Forces soldiers, dedicated teachers, Galileo, Max Plank, Yuri Gagarin, Moses, Molly Pitcher, Euclid, Thoreau, Charlemane, William Wallace, Confucious, Florence Nightengale, ............ ad infinitem.
Life is good!

 

[bootle]

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As you are never in doubt that you're often wrong, i therefore see it fitting for me to add nothing else to this thread.

 

[QC]

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I debated whether a response to your reply was warranted.

Not sure why it was necessary to debate unless you thought I was a total waste of fingertip wear . . .

When I said kids I was referring to my 15 YO, but with that said, I think violence is different than sex . . . so your analogy may be a little weak.

I also believe that constantly being bombarded with MTV messages that all sex is good, with anyone, of any gender, is not healthy, so maybe I am not consistent. My point was that physically harming people is understood by the harmer whether or not he/she played video games that might seem to make it OK . . . Or better said, I don't believe that blowing people up with cyber grenade launchers will lead kids to think actually doing so is OK . . . It may put the idea into an already evil mind, but whether he/she uses a grenade launcher or a knife or a fist or a gun doesn't concern me really. Setting out to hurt someone does greatly

We need to be careful as this thread could easily get locked. Rock on dude. Good discussion.

 

[Limited-Time]

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I for one am utterly convinced that humans are the low lifes on this planet.
When one looks at our history, the evidence is most convincing.

I take offense with that statement.................................... If you were to say some humans are the lowest lifes on this planet..................I'd agree with you.
............................Just think what kind of world it would be if the bad "humans" out weighted the good the way the good "humans".................that my friend is a scary thought..

 

[SgtMaj]

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Now that the source of the spikes has been discovered to be the government, I wonder if you are going to reverse your position on these video games being so evil and corrupting the minds of our youth to do such twisted things...

You could maybe keep that same soap box rant and change video games to universities since I'm sure each of the WRO's that placed them there to combat those weeds had learned such tactics for combating unwanted foliage in some kind of higher learning institute.

Of course I'm just being silly. But don't you feel silly now, too?

 

[mainexile]

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Now that the source of the spikes has been discovered to be the government, I wonder if you are going to reverse your position on these video games being so evil and corrupting the minds of our youth to do such twisted things...QUOTE]

Do you have a link for that info? If so, I'll reverse my position on THIS occurrence...but my original contention still holds with respect to "programmed violence".

 

[SS MAYFLOAT]

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According to the experts in brain development. The ages between 14 to 22 the brain develops in the frontal lobe on the right and wrong decisions. I would think that many hours of playing a violent game would alter or interfere with the proper development of their right and wrong decision making.

I do know that in my town that the violence has gone up in the horrific crimes. Those that have been caught are 95% under the age of 25. Maybe the experts are right on with their studies.

 

[LadyFish]

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There are so many reasons for malice. I personally don't believe that video games alone have anything to do with it. Its a combination of troubled emotions which are precipating factors, upbringing, values, and ethics.