1974 40 hp Johnson?

reelfishin

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I came across a 40EL74S the other day, it's a 40hp but it's quite different that any of my other motors in this size.
What is the purpose of the on motor throttle knob where the tiller handle would normally be?
It also is without the common red plug harness connector, it's hardwired to the boat like an earlier motor, yet the parts list shows a round connector.
It's controlled with an Evinrude twin lever Simplex control box and a dash mounted ignition switch.

Did any other motor share this lower unit? The top half looks a lot like a 50 hp, but the lower is smaller and lighter. I looks more like a carry over from the 60's motors.
 

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Re: 1974 40 hp Johnson?

the knob is the manual throttle, it moves with the linkage some one, has hard wire the motor, as it is common for the harnesses to get damaged on the motor end. the dash mount was very common in that era. the simplex control and dash mount will work on most motors up to 1996. the 40 used the old style gear case, where the 50 used the one piece gear case. the power heads are almost indentical, just different bores etc.

side note, i have an 88 50hp, that the control box broke inside. the wiring harness was long enough to reach the dash. i removed the electrics, from control and dash mounted them, since the neutral safety switch would not work, i replaced it with a push button (that is in the choke) that has to be held to start the motor.
i used an 50-60's simples control, change the cable ends and the motor runs fine.

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Re: 1974 40 hp Johnson?

I had certainly considered that someone has just hard wired this but I have another 40 hp here that's the same year and it's quite a bit different. It has the red plug harness and uses a terminal block as does the 50 hp, the 40 hp in question has no terminal strip or block.
Being that it's 34 years old, there's no telling what was done to it in the past. The boat it came on came from south FL, and it also had Bahamas paperwork and registration with it, so its come a distance since it was new.
The switch panel is very similar to yours, even has the same push button choke set up. My controls are newer, it uses the more square type box. The controls say Evinrude on them but the motor is a Johnson, they may even be the same era. By the paper work found in the boat, I'd guess it was at one time registered in the Bahamas, or both FL and the Bahamas.
It wasn't set up for fishing in anyway but had it's seats removed and they were using folding chairs and a home made wooden drivers seat. The motor shows no signs of salt damage and is well maintained in that every bolt is replaced with stainless and all were installed with antisieze compound.

There is no tag on the bracket or any sign of it having one, I got the model number from the welch plug on the power head.
It's cover looks the same as my 1978 55 hp, and the lower unit looks very similar to an older big twin. The compression was down a bit when I first checked it but I let it sit with some penetration oil for a few days, then hand cranked the motor about 20 times before starting it. After it ran for a few minutes, the compression came up from 90/101 psi to 128/131 psi. The carb was fine, I installed a new impeller and lubed all the linkage.

The swivel pin will need to come apart, for some reason it binds if turned more than a few inches. It took grease and isn't seized but won't turn like it should.

This is the first 40 that I've come across, I was surprised to see how much lighter they are than a 50 hp motor. I can carry this around myself, it's not much heavier than my 1985 30 HP, maybe even lighter.

I found some older parts still in the boat, they look to be from an even older motor, so I am guessing that this motor may not have been used very long when the boat was put in storage. I am guessing it had replaced the older motor. The prop that's installed looked new, as the impeller I removed had no wear at all and the plugs looked never fired. It's my guess that they were getting it ready to install. They did at least oil down the motor and cylinders when it was put away. There was a hand written tag on the motor saying not to turn it since the cylinders were filled with oil.
 

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Re: 1974 40 hp Johnson?

The parts list is what led me to ask questions on this one. The parts list shows the red plug type harness.
A local dealer said he thinks it was most likely built as a tiller motor and someone converted it to remote control. If that's the case, then the power head may be from another motor since I got the model and serial number from the welch plug.
Everything matches the parts list other than the wire harness and the fact that this doesn't have a rope start option. The decals, paint color and other parts all match for it's model number. I have another slightly older 40hp that is a remote motor and it doesn't have the on motor throttle knob or kill button like this has.
 

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Re: 1974 40 hp Johnson?

it is a knob like this one?
Yep, that's the knob, but my cover is fiberglass. What's the purpose of having an on motor throttle? It's sort of convenient but not very useful other then while tuning the motor maybe in a barrel. But that can also be done by pulling the cover off and moving the carb linkage directly.
It seems like a lot of linkage for nothing?
 

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Re: 1974 40 hp Johnson?

i really don't know, but all the first remote J/E had them.
 

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Re: 1974 40 hp Johnson?

I've had other, even earlier remote motors that didn't have it, was it just on the smaller motors?
I have a few early V4's without it. I guess I just found it odd that they left it there into the 70's. If it weren't for the square fiberglass cover on this, I'd have thought it to be much older.
 
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