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Girlieboater10

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I am new to the forum so thanks in advance for your help. I just bought a boat and I love it! But I have 2 children that I desperately want to take out on the boat with me...but I have heard horrible stories and am afraid that it is not safe for them. If they fall in and I don't realize it, I am afraid I would never be able to find them. Any suggestions?
 

tashasdaddy

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ages? always wear PFD, they have to stay where you tell them. if the can't they stay home. you are the captain of the boat. it is a dictatorship. you start bad habits in the beginning, you will never break them. they make great PFD'S for kids. take them with you, to buy them, action characters, etc. they must fit, and not bind on them, or you and they will be miserable.

http://www.iboats.com/Stearns_Child...8640496--**********.245730859--view_id.259600
 

gcboat

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Tell them to sit in one place so you can keep an eye on em'. The PFD thing is pretty mandatory as well. Put a line on the PFD an shackle it to your arm or leg. Take along another adult as an extra set of eyes.
How old are they?
 

NelsonQ

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I think everyone so far hit the nail on the head. Every kid in my boat wears a PFD before the boats moves. I've educated my daughter and others children when they enter the boat that this is mandatory.

Canadian rules only require you have one on board for each person and not required to wear it, but it doesn't help when its under the seat and your small child is in the lake and doesn't swim or worse is panicking.

In addition, children learn from the adults, so my rule is even adult wear them in the boat. It sets an example for them to learn from as well as removing the argument of "Why do I have to wear one dad if you don't?" It's an argument you can't win.

In a small boat, it's important they sit where indicated and minimize their movements while travelling on the water.

With you dictating the rules and little education, I've yet to find a child that hasn't enjoyed themselves and done so safely. It really is a great experience for them.
 

ekinnee

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My littlest one at 8 months has a PFD with a head float. I've jumped in the lake and had him handed down to me to so he could cool off, while in the water I let him float on his back and watched how the PFD worked. The head float is great! They way infant PFds are designed it will most likely flip them to their backs and keep their head out up and out of the water. HIs also has a grab handle on the top of the head float so you can grab him easily if need be.

As for older kids, I still make my 13 year old wear a PFD. The only time he can take it off is on the dock or when swimming.
 

Andy in NY

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This is our first boat, and we had a few issues early on with the kids (12, 9 and 2). The 2 older ones thought the launch was a swim area, and wanted to play. If we go in 2 cars, they sit in the non towing vehicle until the boat is in the water and we are ready to shove off. If just 1 car, they stay on the grass and are not to go near the docks or water... period. My 9 year old thought I was kidding, and decided to go in the water down the launch ramp. The next time we went out, we got a babysitter for him and he stayed home. He hasn't done that since.


The 12 year old has an issue with wearing the pfd. She doesn't think its "cool". A few of her friends parents have boats on the same lake and they dont have to wear them on the pontoon boats. She knows that she MUST AT ALL TIMES wear one while in the boat, moving or not. We go to a sand bar to swim, and she can take hers off there, but if we are swimming in the middle of the lake it stays on.

The biggest rule of my boat is that NO ONE moves around while it is in motion, unless instructed to by me. They move, the boat gets turned around and headed back towards the dock.
 

davidfhare

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I have my three year old out all the time with no worries, but she always wears her PFD and knows to sit where I tell her. One tip for you - keep a second PFD for your child on board. We often change our daughter out of her swimsuit after a swim into dry clothes. It's nice to be able to put a dry PFD back on her.

Make it fun for the kids too - find out what they like to do. My daughter likes to try "fishing" with her Barbie fishing pole. We don't even have a hook on the line but she doesn't care. We also make sure she gets a safe ride with Mom on the tube. She could ride that thing all day.

I assume the children in question are young and therefore in some sort of car seat. Please do not launch or retrieve the boat with the kids in their car seats. If for whatever reason the car starts to go in the water you don't want them strapped in with it.

If they're old enough to go in for a swim make sure they stay clear of the boat. The rocking boat from other's wake can become very dangerous in the water. It amazes me how many times I see kids swimming virtually under a swim platform or the bow of the boat. Keeping them away from the boat will also prevent carbon monoxide exposure. And obviously anytime my kid is in the water the engine is off and the boat is anchored. I and/or my wife are always in the water with her and our daughter never swims without her PFD. I typically wear mine in the water with her too.

Make sure they know to keep hands, arms, legs, feet, etc. away from the sides of the boat when near a dock or when tied to other boats.

Use plenty of sunscreen. A bimini was must on our boat.

Finally, have some sort of port-a-pottie on board (assuming they are out of diapers). My girl will do "number 1" in the water but none of us want her to do "number 2" in the lake. Also if she's already changed and dry she can do either on board.
 
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Shawn_floats

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This year, I got to spend a lot of time with my three young kids on the water.
I think that boating with kids is a tremendous amount of fun, and something they will always remember. It's a fantastic family outing.

For me, safety always prevails however, and nothing should every be taken for granted.

PFD's are mandatory for them at ALL times on the boat. No exceptions ever.

For me, one of the hardest for them to learn is to NOT move around when the boat is in motion. Some gene in kids makes them seem helpless to this fidget-y habit. It took a few trips out before they finally got the message. (I'm pretty sure the boats within a mile around me heard my message too!).
They stay seated now, and are well behaved. It makes the boating experience so much better and more fun for everyone.

Get out there and have fun with them on the water - safely.
 

tashasdaddy

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the family that boats together stays together, they learn that it is fun, especially when they get big enough for water sports. they only problem with this, is you will need a bigger boat, as they all will want to bring a friend.
we boated as kids, now we all have boats and so do our children.
 

arboldt

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I thought it was a federal regulation, but maybe just a Michigan one, that changed this year or last. Every child 12 or under is required to be *wearing* a PFD. Over that age, you must have a PFD available but they are not required to wear it.

Now that regulation is the minimum, of course, and wisdom may dictate even more stringent requirements from the owner / parent.

This next comment is not meant to downplay the importance of PFD at all.

When our kids were 3 months old, my wife took them to a weekly water babies class at the local Y. Both were swimming before they could walk, and both respected the water and were comfortable in it (they're now both in their 30's with kids of their own). I taught swimming when I was in high school, and I made sure both of our boys knew how to swim well. Before they could venture out over shoulder depth, they each had to demonstrate to my wife and I they could tread water for 10 minutes (maybe just 5 -- can't remember).

With our kids, it was not an issue, but our grandkids are not permitted to attempt water skiing until they demonstrate to us they can swim adequately without a PFD, even though PFDs are required to use any water toys.

A rite of passage for each was being able to swim across the lake, a distance of about 1.25 - 1.5 miles. I would swim with them while my wife drove the boat as escort. Needless to say, a life jacket would have made that swim virtually impossible.

When we anchor in the lake for swimming, everyone has already demonstrated their ability in the water, and no one wears a PFD. We did not have a boat when they were preschoolers. If they had been, I probably would have required PFDs for a mid-lake swim.
 

shorts&chanclas

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Our 10 month old comes with us a couple of times per month. Ditto on all the safety items already discussed. But here is the other key item especially in the south. Go out early and come in early to beat the heat and wind. besides the best water is at 7am anyways.
 

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This is a great question and a real concern. I wish everyone on the water had the same concerns... As everyone else said, always wear PFDs. My youngest is 4 but has been on the boat for years. They all have had some sort of swimming lessons and the right PFD is worn for them. The smaller kids stay up front where I can keep my eyes on them. They all know that when they are in the water to stick their hands up high in the sky. This works for water sports well.

I don;t know the age of the kids you are talking about but hands up is a great thing to teach the kids.
 

tx1961whaler

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A rule of thumb: If your kids behave well when you're all out in a restaurant, then they may be OK in a boat. If they are the type that can't sit at the table, have to run around and yell and scream, then they have no business in a boat. Or a restaurant.
 

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A rule of thumb: If your kids behave well when you're all out in a restaurant, then they may be OK in a boat. If they are the type that can't sit at the table, have to run around and yell and scream, then they have no business in a boat. Or a restaurant.

Amen to that brother !!!!!!!!
 

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A rule of thumb: If your kids behave well when you're all out in a restaurant, then they may be OK in a boat. If they are the type that can't sit at the table, have to run around and yell and scream, then they have no business in a boat. Or a restaurant.

Here here!
 

Girlieboater10

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They are very fidgety, they are 4 and 6. I guess that is why I am so scared and overprotective! I just would really like to take them out because I know they would enjoy it. There is no question they are going to wear PFDs (good idea to have 2 for each to keep a dry one). I was just hoping for another safety device that would make me feel even more comfortable...are inflatable jackets better?
 

tashasdaddy

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not at that age. they play and fiddle with things, an will pull the manual activator.
 

NelsonQ

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girlie, the only thing safer is a true life jacket.

This is the Canadian Red Cross information. Note, inflatable PFDs in Canada are only allow when they are over 16 years of age and/or more than 36kgs (80lbs) I'm sure the US has similar requirements.

http://www.redcross.ca/article.asp?id=15198&tid=024

The link shows comparisons of lifejacket vs. PFDs, vs inflatable PFDs as well as recommendations on best applications.

Hope this helps you choose.
 

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They are very fidgety, they are 4 and 6. ...are inflatable jackets better?

My daughter can't sit still unless she is tired, except on the boat. She sits with my wife (she is very small) and never wants to get up while we are moving. Your's might suprise you, but it would be best to have another adult along to keep an eye on them.

And NO, inflatables are not better. They are also not coast guard approved.

I have my older kids convinced that the law requires PFDs until they are 16. And I've told them that even then they won't be taking them off. My wife and I have also started wearing ours. Might as well set a good example. :D
 
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