Help with Mecruiser diagnosis

Fishermark

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Sorry in advance for the long post, but here goes? I took the boat out for a spin yesterday afternoon - 1988 24? Sportcraft with a 2003 Mercruiser 5.7 crate engine and Alpha clone (SE106) outdrive. The engine serial number is OM657558.

Cruised at around 3200 rpms for 10 miles or so, as I approached our destination - Cayo Costa Island - I came back down to slow speed and noted the engine sounded ?different.? A little ragged and rough, but not terrible.

After sitting at the dock for about 5 hours, we started up for the journey back. It ran very rough and would barely idle at all. It took some doing to get into gear without stalling, but finally were able to. Boat ran very rough - sputtered - coughed - backfired until we got up to our cruising speed of 3,000 rpms - give or take. Any time we would slow down it threatened to die.

Today I pulled the plugs and looked at them - to be honest I half expected them to be wet or show signs of rusty water?. But nothing. I turned the engine over - no water comes out of the cylinders. I pulled off the fuel water separator, gas looks clean with no water at all and no debris.

I put new plugs back in, and want to check more to make sure there is no water getting in the cylinders. Is there any way to check for water in the cylinders other than pulling the risers and manifolds? These have the dry joint risers and the gaskets are expensive - something like $40 a piece! I would like to avoid pulling them off if possible.

The manifolds and risers are original with the engine, so they are five years old. I?ve always flushed the engine after use and neither the engine nor risers get hot. I can put my hand on them. Does that tend to rule out them rusting out and leaking internally?

I took some pictures of the plugs and will post the results. In the meantime, any suggestions? :confused:
 

ziggy

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Re: Help with Mecruiser diagnosis

when i had a bum manifold on my L6. the water ended up in my engine oil. chocolate milk and over full....
 

Windykid

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Re: Help with Mecruiser diagnosis

If the plugs show no signs of water, then move on. check dist and coil. Coils do go bad. But i would try a simple test. Pull one plug wire at a time and see which one doesn't change the idle. A compression test would be a good idea.
 

Don S

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Re: Help with Mecruiser diagnosis

If you aren't showing any signs of rust or water on the plugs, and none coming out of the cylinders with the plugs out, I doubt that is your problem. Especially with the way the dry joint manifolds are set up. The water just can't get to the exhaust passage short of having a cracked or holed manifold or riser.
I suppose you could get some water in the cylinders with a leaky valve, but then you would see water on the plugs.
I would think first a bad connection on the ignition module, or engine in need of a tuneup. As mentioned, a compression test wouldn't hurt.
Have you checked the fuel filter water seperator for water? Is the flame arrestor clean?
 

Fishermark

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Re: Help with Mecruiser diagnosis

UPDATE
Thanks to all for your help - I apparently got it fixed.

I got a chance to do a little more work this afternoon. What's interesting is that I have had this engine since new (2003) and it has about 260 hours on it and I am the only one who has done any work on it. I remember changing the spark plugs a couple of years ago, and to my surprise I had put Autolite plugs in - I have no idea why. (They were Autolite APP605). I usually only use AC Delco or NGK. Anyway, I put a new set of AC MR43LTS, as recommended by Mercruiser and it started right up and ran great.

As I mentioned in the first post, I had already checked the fuel water seperator and it had no water or debris. I also double checked the mesh filter on the carb - again, no particles at all. It looked brand new.

I guess the problem was a simple as the spark plug(s) going bad. I've never seen anything go bad that quickly. :eek: I still have no idea why I used Autolite.... live and learn! :D
 

Don S

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Re: Help with Mecruiser diagnosis

Funny you should mention Autolite, was working on a Honda outboard last week that had a rough idle, intermittant heavy miss and lack of power. Changed the spark plugs and it worked great. Old ones were Autolite ????
I've had lots of problems in the past with Champion plugs doing that, first time with an Autolite problem, and now yours...... Hmmmmmm.
 
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