6 HP johnson FULL resto. Help appreciated

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I've got a friend who has asked me to restore his late '60s johnson 6. I do have many hours experience with different motors, including my '58 7.5 sweetheart.

Long story short, my friend entrusted the 6 to his cousin who promptly submerged the poor motor one day, then left it sitting in the yard for over a year. Now that I have my hands on it, I am supposed to restore the motor to relatively new condition. In the eyes of my friend, mechanical soundness is far more important than appearance. Though I will throughly clean the motor, I am not planning to do any painting, etc...

On to the guts of the matter:

Knowing what I do about salt water, I immediately pulled the head and saturated both piston decks with PB blaster penetrant as well as the intake to the carburetor. Since then, I removed every component right down to the crankshaft. I have the pistons out (getting 'em out was fun). The connecting rod bearings were corroded to the point where they were seized to the crank. I got them off and saturated all teh parts in engine cleaner. After cleaning the salt deposits off, i sprayed everything with a light coat of lube.

Now that it's time to assess the parts, replace parts, and re-assemble, i'm trying to decide what to do. Any advice whatsoever is much appreciated. Keep in mind, I don't want to break the bank but at the same time, the owner did say that he will pick up the tab no matter how steep. he is very attached to the motor.

From what I know now, I need to do the following:

Replace:
Crank (chrome has been compromised on journals)
Pistons
rods
rings
rod bearings
reeds (they're shot)
possibly carb... some jets are very very corroded
Ignition
the (un-replaceable?) bearings of the crank case look okay

Now that I have a parts washer moved-into my new shop, I can start really cleaning and soaking things. Obviously, a clearer synopsis of the motor will be given.

I will get the numbers off the motor tomorrow, as well as some other info.

Sorry to ramble on but there is a lot to tell. I'm considering buying a used powerhead with decent compression. All opinions are appreciated.

Thanks

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jbjennings

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Re: 6 HP johnson FULL resto. Help appreciated

No doubt---get a used powerhead with good compression. I wouldn't even consider fixing a powerhead that had been submerged and left out for a year, but in saltwater??? No chance. There's lots of used powerheads out there that will fit your year. I saw a factory NOS 6hp powerhead on ebay for about 150 bucks several months ago. I'd try to find one on ebay with the carb and all on it.
JMO,
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Re: 6 HP johnson FULL resto. Help appreciated

Is there sentimental value in the motor? Its scrap at this point. You are talking $100's of dollars to repair a $250-350 motor. The tune-up parts alone will cost $200. If your friend really wants this thing repaired the best thing to do is to find a suitable replacement powerhead. How is the rest of the motor? Lower unit and tiller gears ok?
 

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Re: 6 HP johnson FULL resto. Help appreciated

Ditto. What they said.
 

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Re: 6 HP johnson FULL resto. Help appreciated

Thank you guys for your speedy replies and opinions. I definitely agree that the motor is scrap. If it was mine, i would have hucked 'er in the dumpster. However, sentimental value is keeping it around. My friend is paying me to repair it and he does not care how much it will cost.

I'm starting to agree that, under the circumstances, replacing the powerhead is the most logical thing to do.

As far as the rest of the motor, the mounts and tiller gear appear to be in good shape. the engine has few hours. The impeller looks good but i will replace it. the lower unit is getting seals. it's been leaking but the internals looked good when i disassembled it.

Again, i appreciate the help and welcome more opinions.

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wbeaton

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Re: 6 HP johnson FULL resto. Help appreciated

Get a good used powerhead. It could cost $1000 to replace all the powerhead parts with new ones. If its all apart anyway, you might as well paint it. At least it should look good for all the money he's going to have in it.
 

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Re: 6 HP johnson FULL resto. Help appreciated

Good point about the paint job. I'll take another look at the paints that "what's his name" sells on the old paint website. like you say... might as well.

I'm going to price some of the internal parts just for fun but i think it will easily exceed the cost of a used powerhead with wiring. eb@y is a great source for stuff like this as you already mentioned.

I'll keep the thread updated with my progress and any more questions i have.

as always, any opinions are welcome. The help is appreciated

thanks

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freddyray21

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Re: 6 HP johnson FULL resto. Help appreciated

my opinion is like most. get a used power head. He may say it does not matter how much it costs but he might when it comes time to pay the bill. A motor is a motor. It's not like a tree two sweethearts carved their initials in.
 

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Re: 6 HP johnson FULL resto. Help appreciated

yeah.

i'm going to start looking for some used motors with bad feet, etc... and also i'll look for just the powerhead itself.

I've been washing the shrouds and other cosmetic parts in my parts washer. they're pretty nice. It won't be long before this sucker is purring like a kitten again. Now... to find a powerhead.... ha ha.

thanks

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DJ

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Re: 6 HP johnson FULL resto. Help appreciated

Google: Twin City Outboard. They probably have a dozen of those sitting around with bad lower units.
 

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Re: 6 HP johnson FULL resto. Help appreciated

Thanks for the info! I looked at the site and couldn't find any of the 6 motors advertised but i'll give 'em a ring tomorrow and tell them to keep an eye out for me.

Meanwhile, i'll order a seal kit for this lower unit. it'll be fun to put it back together.

thanks

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samo_ott

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Re: 6 HP johnson FULL resto. Help appreciated

I had to get my 2c in.

Rusted for a year? It's a boat anchor for sure. Get a used powerhead. A used powerhead will cost less than a new crankshaft. And if your buddy is attached to it, it's probably the outside, not the inside.
 

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Re: 6 HP johnson FULL resto. Help appreciated

Thanks for your input. I priced the parts just for fun and, excluding fuel delivery and ignition, the tally was >300. No surprise.

If any of you see a '73 6HP johnson/evinrude, it'd be great if you could let me know about it.

Thanks

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