gave boat away and guy wants money back!

MISSBAJA

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Re: gave boat away and guy wants money back!

Haha.. That is funny! Wow and u even gave it away to possibly try to help someone else out! Geshh.. People... lol
 

reelfishin

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I haven't seen any sign of him since the last visit, maybe he got the message. I think if he don't show again this weekend, so I maybe I'm rid of him.

He's probably found someone else to harass.

If not maybe his outpatient pass expired.
 

TWR

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Re: gave boat away and guy wants money back!

word of advice, anything you sell or give away , make a bill of sale describeing what is being sold with a vin number or description and state on the bill of sale "as/is no warranty" and have them sign it. keep it in a safe place. i sell quite a bit and have had legal action taken against me, like 3 different occasions in 25 years and each time presented the copy of bill of sale to the judge , first thing judge ask is this your signature and the platient says yes , the judge automatically said dismissed. if i sell something and they will not sign it i do not sell it, clear and simple.
I got taken one time never again.
Good Luck TWR
 

reelfishin

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Re: gave boat away and guy wants money back!

word of advice, anything you sell or give away , make a bill of sale describeing what is being sold with a vin number or description and state on the bill of sale "as/is no warranty" and have them sign it. keep it in a safe place. i sell quite a bit and have had legal action taken against me, like 3 different occasions in 25 years and each time presented the copy of bill of sale to the judge , first thing judge ask is this your signature and the platient says yes , the judge automatically said dismissed. if i sell something and they will not sign it i do not sell it, clear and simple.
I got taken one time never again.
Good Luck TWR

I use a state DMV approved form for a bill of sale on any vehicle I sell, whether its a boat, car or bike. This one wasn't a sale, it was free.
I equate this guy coming back and whining about it to be about as someone complaining about an item they picked from the trash pile.

While the boat wasn't junk, it was free and any repairs it needed were quite obvious, like the total lack of a deck or floor and any other bolt on parts.
He would have to prove a dollar amount paid to get anything in court.
He has nothing to do so with. When I list a free boat and someone comes for it, I pretty much point it out and say there it is, take it or leave it. If he hadn't have taken that boat, I most likely would have ended up cutting it up do to a lack of space. It wouldn't have been the first one I cut up or dumped. If it was total junk, I'd have cut it up from the get go, but it had lots of potential if someone wanted to put some elbow grease in it.
If I didn't have so many projects going already, I'd have fixed it myself.

I pickup dozens of boats every year, some with titles, some without. Some I take for the motor, some for the trailer, and some turn out to be good complete boats. I don't have the space to keep them all and many that I let go are just not my style of boat. This fit that category, it was more speed boat than fishing boat, the drivers seating was separated from the rest of the interior by a wall that you had to climb over making not so fishing friendly. It was a nice classic boat though so I listed it for someone else to have.
I did offer to give the guy a receipt with the boat so he didn't get charged sales tax but he didn't wait around long enough to get one when he picked it up. He grabbed the boat up and left. When I pick up a free boat, especially one that don't have a title, I try to get the owner to sign something saying it was a free boat so if I later decide to title it, I don't get charged sales tax on it.
 

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Re: gave boat away and guy wants money back!

Come on, fess up. You made this whole thing up. No one can be that stupid and still remember to breath.

I agree no one person can be that stupid....maybe he's twins:eek::eek:
 

reelfishin

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I agree no one person can be that stupid....maybe he's twins:eek::eek:

I used to think the same thing but after having spent over 15 years in the automotive trade before getting out, I thought I heard it all. After you hear a someone screaming that it's the mechanics fault they hit a deer and totaled their new car or the mechanic who rotated my tires caused my 150,000 mile transmission to fail or any number of insane complaints, you no longer just assume that someone can't be that stupid or that bold. I had one lady years ago claim that every since I fixed her car her other car had a pull to the right. She ranted and raved to the owner of the dealer for an hour. They dealer finally told her they'd fix her other car at no charge. So who's the stupid one there? I think the car that I did work on was in for a seat belt recall. The other car turned out to have a dead battery, which they replaced for her for free even though the battery was more than 5 years old.
That dealer is no longer in business, go figure. Businesses are so afraid of getting sued they will do just about anything, there's a whole lot of people out there that pray upon just that thinking. It was things like that made me decide to get out of that business. I couldn't stand to be part of a company that would cow to such demands. Another common situation was the customer who would tow their blown up vehicle in and schedule an oil change, when they called saying the car wouldn't start, they'd claim it was fine when the dropped it off. Nearly every time the courts would award the customer the win forcing the dealer to fix the car for free under its liability insurance.
 

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Re: gave boat away and guy wants money back!

I also used to be in the auto biz.. One of my favorite things that happend a few times, they would call in yelling, demanding a rental car be sent and a tow truck to them. Then I would pay for there day of work they miss and then free services, just all sorts of demands...I would ask whats wrong with the car/what happend, the remote wouldn't unlock the door (dead batt in remote) and now they can't use there car. I asked if they tried the key in the door.. Usually I got silence for a while, then a quiet, oh, uh, good bye.
 

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I also used to be in the auto biz.. One of my favorite things that happend a few times, they would call in yelling, demanding a rental car be sent and a tow truck to them. Then I would pay for there day of work they miss and then free services, just all sorts of demands...I would ask whats wrong with the car/what happend, the remote wouldn't unlock the door (dead batt in remote) and now they can't use there car. I asked if they tried the key in the door.. Usually I got silence for a while, then a quiet, oh, uh, good bye.

What got to me even more was the customer that screamed and yelled the whole time their vehicle was in for service complaining that they had no way to get to work or pickup their kids or whatever it may be. Then when the car was done, it sat there for a week waiting for them to come pick it up.

Another good one was the customer that come in with a list 3 pages long on a car that they just bought the day before. Usually it was a bare bones sub compact with no options. They would complain about every little tiny imperfection and often things that no one else could see or find. It was always the price leader model with stick shift, no air etc. Then they'd add every JC Whitney accessory they could find. Stainless vent shades, seat covers, personalized floor mats, pinstripes, fuzzy steering wheel cover, $99 special no name radio, add on air conditioning, custom head light bulbs, custom fender flares and the cheapest set of aluminum wheels that Pep Boys sells that are two sizes two wide for the car. Then they'd complain about wind noise, vibrations, wheel shimmy, brake pull, and blown fuses.
Then wonder why the dealer won't fix the problems under warranty caused by all the junk they added.

I don't mean that some accessories aren't useful but there's quality and quantity, these customers seemed to go for quantity. The best fad was that cheap Neon pinstripe and under-car lighting. Try lifting a car for service that has 50' of neon tubed bolted to the lower side of the uni body. It was usually an Escort, Chevette, Yugo or other low dollar econo box car of the day.
 

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... they'd add every JC Whitney accessory they could find. Stainless vent shades, seat covers, personalized floor mats, pinstripes, fuzzy steering wheel cover, $99 special no name radio, add on air conditioning, custom head light bulbs, custom fender flares and the cheapest set of aluminum wheels that Pep Boys sells that are two sizes two wide for the car. Then they'd complain about wind noise, vibrations, wheel shimmy, brake pull, and blown fuses.
Then wonder why the dealer won't fix the problems under warranty caused by all the junk they added.

I don't mean that some accessories aren't useful but there's quality and quantity, these customers seemed to go for quantity. The best fad was that cheap Neon pinstripe and under-car lighting. Try lifting a car for service that has 50' of neon tubed bolted to the lower side of the uni body. It was usually an Escort, Chevette, Yugo or other low dollar econo box car of the day.

Amen! :D
 

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Re: gave boat away and guy wants money back!

I don't mean that some accessories aren't useful but there's quality and quantity, these customers seemed to go for quantity. The best fad was that cheap Neon pinstripe and under-car lighting. Try lifting a car for service that has 50' of neon tubed bolted to the lower side of the uni body. It was usually an Escort, Chevette, Yugo or other low dollar econo box car of the day.



That they want to use to tow a free boat. SLMAO
 

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Re: gave boat away and guy wants money back!

Reminds me of Joe Piscopo's SNL character - "I'm from Jersey! Are you from Jersey?"

No, no! Beefer, It's "Joisey, Joisey" :D
You gave me my daily chuckle there! :D Plus you must be old to remember that, it was quite awhile ago, I am, and I do :eek: ;)

My own story, many years ago I sold an old 17' Higgins (classic mahogany looking) plywood, inboard speedboat (135hp greymarine motor). I paid $500 for it trailer, & all. The previous owner did a valve job on it, and it ran like a top, 38mph! But I did some well needed cosmetic work, only to find out the bottom was soft, and leaked,,, So, rather then bother with all the work, I sold it for $600 to a guy who loved the style, & look. I told him the engine ran great, but it leaks a little, check it out.
Fast forward a few months later, and I get a call from a Suffolk county Sheriff one Sat. morning, to move my boat sitting in the middle of the highway (no trailer?) in Patchogue about 40miles away :eek: I said, Wait I sold that boat months ago? he said "To Who?" Luckily I had the guys name on the registration stub, and I dug it up and gave it to him,,, He then said, "Oh, Him!" like he knew exactly who I meant, and then said, "Okay, nevermind", I was quite relieved, and Thank God, I never heard from the Sheriff again.
 

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No, no! Beefer, It's "Joisey, Joisey" :D
You gave me my daily chuckle there! :D Plus you must be old to remember that, it was quite awhile ago, I am, and I do :eek: ;)

I'm old??? :eek: Then remembering watching the first Brady Bunch episode"IN LIVING COLOR" must make me ancient! I'm 43...
 

JustMrWill

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Re: gave boat away and guy wants money back!

It seems that either society is somehow turning out more idiots or somehow more must be surviving these days than did in the past or else maybe they've really loosened security at the asylums lately.
....Maybe its because they make everything so idiot proof these days, more idiots are surviving then did years ago?


Idiocracy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiocracy

Not the greatest movie but the storyline was exactly that!
 

DRIFTER_016

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"You Cant Fix Stupid" Ron White
 

redright9

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I love that movie....It is way too true... When I worked at a VW dealer, I had way more problems with the person in the Beetle or Jetta then the person in the Pheaton.
 

reelfishin

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Re: gave boat away and guy wants money back!

"You Cant Fix Stupid" Ron White

Very, very true.

I watched a guy today remove both rear bolts which hold the back cross member of a Load Rite trailer, with the boat still on it. I walked by and asked what happens when he knocked both bolts out, he replied nothing, the front rollers and winch will hold the boat up. I recommended a jack or stand of some sort but was told by him that he was a professional and knew what he was doing. 5 minutes later the boat was on the ground, the bow eye ripped out, and who knows what other damage. He pounded the bolts out from the side, when he knocked out the last bolt, the boat just dropped to the ground, still sitting on the rollers with the cross member sitting on the dirt. The sudden drop removed the bow eye which was turn buckled to the frame. The boat was about a 21' or so cuddy cabin.
Who ever owned the boat started the day out with a rusty rear cross member, but now they have real problems. It wasn't a regular shop, just a guy that works on boats and has a yard full of parts. He gets a lot of business because he works cheap. I guess someone got a real lesson in value today.
It's more a case of you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink in that case. I tried to point out or at least politely tell the guy that he was about to dump the boat but after the professional remark, I let him be.
I am glad I do all my own work. Incidents like that are why I got into this in the first place, that along with me being too cheap or poor to pay someone else.
 

DLB68

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that is like people who buy new cars loud stero equipment and the latest cell phones with the greatest internet ability ...then they put a paper temp license plate on the new car ....
 

Andy'sDelight

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Compassion. It's what seperates us from just about every other species and defies the laws of nature. All other species moves on and leaves the weak behind for the sake of the pack. They only mate with the best and strongest to ensure survival of the breed. Humans, on the other hand, have compassion for the weak and nurture them and sustain them. This is why this man walked up to your door in the first place. :p
 
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