higher hp engine dependability

greasemonkeyjmj

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i am looking at buying another boat. but what worries me is, it seems like i see a lot more higher hp engines needing a rebuild, or being sold with a blown powerhead, than i see of the smaller hp engines. are the larger engines less dependable than the smaller engines ? say 50 versus 200 hp. in fact the boat i am looking at has a 96 merc 200 efi on it. the man that owns it, took it to his mechanic after he bought ,it for a checkup and found out it had a bad cylinder.he spent 3 grand and had a complete rebuild done.i dont want to spend a lot of money on something that isnt very dependable........thanks
 

tashasdaddy

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Re: higher hp engine dependability

you know i find that people who can afford those motors and boats, do not do their own maintainance. they wait for something to not work then don't understand why it broke. the motors are good but most owners aren't. anything used is really a crap shoot.
 

greasemonkeyjmj

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Re: higher hp engine dependability

thanks TD i kind of thought maybe it is like anything mechanical, it all depends on how you run it, and how good of care you take of it.
 

NelsonQ

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Re: higher hp engine dependability

Yup, all about the maintenance, that's why they call it preventative.

Where I have my boat, there is everything from 5HP up to 300HP racing outboards.

What I've noticed is there are some 40 yr old motors that run like they're new and other (small and large) that are only a few years old and sound/run like they need some serious attention.

Motor is only as good as its owners attention to its care.
 

dingbat

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Re: higher hp engine dependability

6 cylinders equal 6 times the probable failures over a single cylinder unit.

You have 6 carburetors and 6 ignition systems and it only takes a failure in one systems to go kaBoom. It?s call maintenance, maintenance, maintenance, then more maintenance.
 

kenmyfam

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Re: higher hp engine dependability

It's all to do with the maintenance.
 

reelfishin

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Re: higher hp engine dependability

I've owned and run all size motors, I've never had a problem with any of them.
I will say that the larger motors got far more run time since they were on larger boats which were in turn capable of running farther out to sea, thus the fact that they got more use per season than did say a 9.9 HP twin cylinder motor that only got to run around a mile wide lake on occasion. I could see where the larger motor would show wear faster in the same amount of time.

Also, larger motors for many of the same reasons as above, often see more or only saltwater, where as a smaller motor may never leave the clean freshwater of the local lake or pond.
 

jay_merrill

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Re: higher hp engine dependability

I think that two issues have been brought up here - first, that of older engines v. newer ones and, second, that of lower hp engines v. higher hp engines.

I don't buy new motors. To me, they seem to be ridiculously expensive and, for the most part, of no more practical value than the older motors that I own. I also believe that the older motors are more easily maintained and kept in a reliable state. They are simple in design and devoid of complex ignition and fuel/oil injection systems. The older motors also tend to be the product of years of adherence to a basic engine design. In these motors, it seems like the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" theory of life applies.

On the hp side of things, it seems like an awful lot is being asked of relatively small displacement engines. One motor in particular that seems to me, to be a candidate for a very short lifespan, is the Mercury Verado. These are very small displacement engines for the power they put out, and are very complex. So far, they seem to have a pretty good reputation in terms of reliability, but they are very new motors, so "school is still out" on that issue. I haven't researched the full spectrum of currently available outboards, but there does seem to be some commonality in the high output, low displacement issue. In particular, what I notice is that a given block will be used for several models/hp offerings produced by a given manufacturer. Where a specific model is lower in hp for that block, the ratio of hp to displacement may not be all that big a deal, but at the higher end of the spectrum, it seems like reliability is bound to suffer.

One area in which I have to admit that do like the newer motors is in environmental friendliness. I love my old motors but there is no doubt that they pollute much more than the new motors do. Who knows, if I win the "big lottery," I might spend a stupid amount of money on a new ETec to make myself feel better about this issue. Then again, maybe not!
 

Benny1963

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Re: higher hp engine dependability

i run both 25 evin 1981.150 evin croossflow and 175 evin crossflow.
i can tell ya this the big ones use lots of gass,and have way more electronics,
and seem to give me a little more trouble .tuneing wise ,but these are older motors ,the old mercs are strong if built and maintained right .looking for xr4
with cle lower and factory light weight cowl right know.
 
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