power trim and tilt

[timdan94]

I have a 1985 85 hp force that I'd like to get power trim and tilt for. Anyone know of a good place to get a complete unit for my motor.
thanks

 

[RRitt]

Re: power trim and tilt

I have a 1985 85 hp force that I'd like to get power trim and tilt for. Anyone know of a good place to get a complete unit for my motor.
thanks

Tough question. If you buy used and it hasn't already been rebuilt then it will probably break pretty soon. If you buy new then you have to take engine off and remount it onto a kicker plate. I don't know any answers that are both really good and really cheap.

I'm clearing out shop and will be dumping two rebuilt units on Ebay in near future. Maybe get lucky and grab one of them. Otherwise, I don't know any way to get reliable trim for under $500+.

 

[Barnacle_Bill]

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Have you considered a CMC unit? http://www.iboats.com/PT_130_W_O_Gauge/dm/*******.186298676--**********.853080001--view_id.111451

 

[timdan94]

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I thought about that but don't know if I want to spend that kind of money on it because the boat is only worth about $1000. I was kinda looking for a used one. If it needs rebuilt that wouldn't be a problem.

 

[RRitt]

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I have two sets of rebuilt 1960-1994 rams to clear out along with all the various pumps and fittings. The rams are the same for every 3cylinder and larger made before 1995 so I can build a system to fit any motor. I don't rebuild rams anymore because too many people were sending in saltwater gear and expecting freshwater prices. Everyonce in a while I still get some rams though because they come along with pump cores. Watch ebay for a buyer's choice rebuilt system in next month or so. After these two are gone DIY ram rebuild is probably the best option left.

 

[timdan94]

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How much do rebuilt systems go for?

 

[RRitt]

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How much do rebuilt systems go for?

Used ones go for anywhere from $120 to $400 depending on condition and time. It's Ebay, so being rebuilt is almost meaningless. A can of spray paint and a good picture can make almost any system look perfect. As such, I would expect a rebuilt system on ebay to sell for $120 to $400.

 

[RRitt]

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i just listed a rebuilt system on ebay with starting bid of one penny and no reserve. If you have decided against buying a new aftermarket then this is probably the only other way to get a reliable system. I don't think anyone else rebuilds the original Force systems. I only have two sets of rams so first auction is winner's choice (1970-1987 or 1987-1994) and second auction is the leftover.

 

[RRitt]

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I'm always interested in pump cores. I do not have much interest in rams since I don't like rebuilding them but sometimes in order to get the pump core i have to buy the whole system. It doesn't matter to me whether or not it works since (IMO) they are all on borrowed time & need to be rebuilt anyway. The only thing I care about is that it is a freshwater system with no missing parts and no stripped threads. After that, all chrysler force trim systems look about the same to me. If you think that they are in great shape and will fetch a premium then you should go to Ebay and sell them. I pay same whether broken or running.

 

[bman1bpm]

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I see you're in PA, there a guy on craigslist in around baltimore, md that has a force 125 with power trim for sale whole motor for 400, sure you could talk him down...and I'm sure I'd take the rest of the motor if you don't want it
http://baltimore.craigslist.org/boa/918413615.html

 

[timdan94]

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I found this one on ebay but I'm not sure about it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Power-tilt-unit-for-Force-outboard-motor-85-125-HP_W0QQitemZ110320644218QQcmdZViewItemQQptZBoat_Parts_Accessories_Gear?hash=item110320644218&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A64|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318

 

[bman1bpm]

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theres another on ebay, buy it now for $99 with free shipping. I mean its $100, says its leak free, take it with a grain of salt, worst comes to worst you can get it rebuilt and you've got a tilt/trim for a couple hundred bucks

 

[timdan94]

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is that the black one that looks kinda rusty and not in too good of shape?

 

[RRitt]

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actually, that one looked in decent shape. No signs of Al-Ox around the transom clamp through bolts. It probably bleeds down but is otherwise good. If it doesn't bleed down yet then it should start sometime next week.

Rebuild the valve body to stop bleed down and put new seals on the motor to prevent internal rust. If you co those two things then that system is probably good for another 10 years.

 

[bman1bpm]

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Yeah it looks like they did a good job when they painted it so they could have a good picture for ebay. haha

 

[blademover34]

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not sure if im it the right place or not but,i have an 1984,85hp force i want to add power trim and tilt,i found one on ebay from an 86 125hp,witch i just bought for 200.00, the 125hp motor looks identical to my 85hp,anyone know if i will have any problems??

 

[timdan94]

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how does this ptt look for $200

http://classifieds.pennswoods.net/c..._Goods:_Recreational_Equipment&adindex=318658

I've been looking for ptt for my 1985 85 hp force it has none now and this is close to me will it fit my 1985

 

[RRitt]

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IMO - It's kind of dumb not to fix a used system before installing it. The darned thing is already running on borrowed time and it's a pain in the *** to put them on and off boat.

SO .... it looks fine to me. The shaft isn't corroded into the housing, the trim centering ring is still good, the band collar looks okay ... throw another $160 or so into fixing up the pump and it should be good to go for another decade or so.

BUT ... if you're asking if it works now. And if it will work next week? There's no way of knowing. Pump failure is caused by age and brand/type of trim fluid used. Looks are meaningless. The only safe bet is that if it isn't broken now then it soon will be. Just put it on and see how far your luck carries.

 

[timdan94]

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I planned on redoing it at some point in time. right now I just want a good base to start from.

 

[timdan94]

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does anyone know what type and where I can get a tilt trim switch for a 2 wire unit for my boat? its an 85 hp force. How does this get hooked up electrically?