Air Crash

tashasdaddy

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the US Airways pilot deserves a medal, and praises.
 

chiefalen

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I can't even count how many times i have gone by that spot.

And the boat traffic, didn't hit nothing. If it were summer theres not even 100 yards between boats there.

He is a hero in every sense of the word.
 

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Nit picking: A crash is an out-of-control collision, usually with the ground.

This was a deliberate, controlled, landing on water. That is a "ditch".

Brilliantly performed. I know of no previous successful ditching of a passenger jet, ever.

Another nit: Not "Canadian" geese. Canada geese. Any goose from Canada is a Canadian goose, but the Canada goose is a particular species that is quite common in the USA.
 

tashasdaddy

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what kind of burr, got under your blanket last night? LOL
 

i386

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Amazing story. That pilot should never have to pay for his own drinks again.

Imagine being a passenger and hearing "Prepare for impact". That's it?!?
 

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I also praise the response of EMS, Fire, Police Ect. It is definately the "unforseen consequences" weather it be good or bad, good in this case of the 9/11 attack. These people had their stuff together.

This goes for all areas too, I live in a town which was evaucated about 20 years ago because of a chemical plant fire, the study which was done afterward about the evacuation stated the evac ran smoothly due to proper planing and training due to the town being about 7 miles away from a nuclear power plant. The moral of the story, sometimes something bad could be turned into something good.

http://www.usfa.dhs.gov/downloads/pdf/publications/tr-005.pdf
 

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There have been a few ditchings by commercial jet aircraft, but I think this one is the first with no fatalities. I just surfed the net for a minute on the topic - the closest event that I found to this one, was an Indonesian Boeing 737 that ditched with only one fatality.

I used to live about a mile from where the US Airways aircraft entered the water. I was also employed in aviation at the time, and have personally flown aircraft down the Hudson River in that area. The fact that this event ended as it did is amazing. In my opinion, what happened is a strange mixture of bad luck, good luck, and a job very well done by the entire crew of that aircraft.

First, loss of all engines due a bird strike is extremely rare. That's the bad luck. On the flip side, there was a major bit of good luck, in that the aircraft was able to gain enough altitude before total power loss, to be able to glide across the top of Manhattan and the southern portion of the Bronx. I heard a news report this morning that said the aircraft passed over the George Washington Bridge too. If my memory serves me correctly, the GW is about 600 feet above the water at road level, never mind the support towers.

As far as the performance of the pilot, I would simply say "amazing!" I have read that he initially wanted to try to make Teterboro Airport, which does have long enough runways to accomodate an A320. The problem, however, would have been that he didn't have enough altitude to be able to glide that far. Had he tried to do this, he most likely would have crashed in a densely populated area. That being the case, ditching in the Hudson was a very good decision.

I was also surprised that he had flaps and slats deployed for the landing. Whether that was because he never retracted them, or because the ram air turbine (RAT) was deployed to maintain electrical power/hydraulic pressure, and those surfaces were deployed during the descent, I don't know. What I would say, however, is that having flaps and slats allowed the aircraft to touch down at a much lower airspeed, than would have been otherwise possible. In that fact, you have a lot of the reason why this ditching was so successful.

The cabin crew also did a great job in this accident. In such situations, they never seem to get press coverage or thanks, but they are a very essential part of the overall team. I have no doubt that they did a superb job in keeping the passengers calm and focused on what had to be done to get everyone out.

Finally, how about those boat crews? Did they do an amazing job, or what? This whole thing is really incredible to me - to have such a great water landing, followed by ferry boats and the like, arriving at the aircraft in minutes and maintaining a perfect position to recover people from a drifting aircraft, is really something! Somehow, I don't think there was training for that sort of thing in "boat capatin school!" Great job by the mariners too!
 

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Coast Guard Station - Kings Point dispatched 2 RIB and a 40 footer to the scene less than 5 minutes from ditch. Arrived on scene in 25 minutes and it was already over. I spoke with the boys this morning and they were amazed how quickly the victims were rescued. NYC waterways emergency action plan diverts all ferries, water taxis, and tour vessels to any marine incidents and that made a huge difference to avoid hypothermia. I was listening on a two-way handheld during the incident and the coordination was outstanding. Proud day for New York Harbor!
 

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The landing was amazing, but what really is amazing the courage showed by the marine captains, without regard to their own safety, to bring the boats in so close and allow the passengers to walk on the wing and board the boats without going in the water.

That in itself saved the day after the plane became a boat. They were first on scene.

To the ferry captains if your reading this, you did us all proud, anyone who captains a boat understands how difficult it was for you to hold position in that current, to not leave anyone behind.
 

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I read that the pilot was a glider instructor. That certainly added to his ability to land unpowered.
 

ehenry

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Capt. Sullenberger certainly deserves all the credit for putting that aircraft down like he did. I also think Air Bus deserves credit as well. Everyone here has said that they were amazed at how the aircraft stayed in one piece and floated like it did. SO, Air Bus you build a fine machine !
 

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Ayuh,... I can't really add to what's been said,... Just ******' Amazing,.....

My hat is off to Capt. Scully,..... Whata Pilot,...

I wish I'd been along for the Ride....
No Doubt beatout Any of the Roller Coasters I've been Lucky enough to ride....:D
 

axeslinger1957

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the US Airways pilot deserves a medal, and praises.

No, the dude deserves a big, fat bonus, a Congressional Medal of Honor, many free rounds of the beverage of his choice and the chance to teach other pilots how he did what he did!
 

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