Salt Water Fishing License in NY

[levittownnick]

Next it's the air we breathe.
I just sent some e-mails to NY State Senators to ask them not to impose more fees on us. Fishing should be a God given right.
See noreast.com.

 

[triumphrick]

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Won't make you feel any better, but we have had fishing licenses here for about as long as I remember...

Since we have a lot of tourists that fish, I'm sure it's just another way to have others help pay for our state of affairs...

Good news is in a couple years the license will be free for me as an old fart...

 

[SuzukiChopper]

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We've always needed a fishing license here. I think anyone over 13 (maybe 16?) needs one. They even have a different one for the national park here. Penalty for not having one and getting caught? All your gear taken and a fine handed out. Not sure you can recover your gear after either.

Edit: One more thought, licenses really only keep an honest person honest. Others will always figure out how to stay below the radar.

 

[thurps]

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Here in the golden state, fishing liscenses start at $41.20 but with the addition of various stamps can bump that up to about $100.00. They do come with a "free" 80 page regulation booklet.

 

[levittownnick]

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What happens when you want to invite a friend out on your boat to fish or a couple kids over 13 or 16? These law-makers never stop reaching in ypur pocket. They even want to get into your pention to support whatever. All I can say can't be printed here. @#$%^&*()+-=<>,.?/@#$%^&*()+-=<>,.?/@#$%^&*()+-=<>,.?/@#$%^&*()+-=<>,.?/@#$%^&*()+-=<>,.?/@#$%^&*()+-=<>,.?/@#$%^&*()+-=<>,.?/@#$%^&*()+-=<>,.?/@#$%^&*()+-=<>,.?/ and thats just for starters.

 

[SuzukiChopper]

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What happens when you want to invite a friend out on your boat to fish or a couple kids over 13 or 16?

Then they better have a fishing license. Just like anyone that wants to drive my car better have a drivers license and anyone that wants to ride my chopper or Harley better have their motorcycle endorsement. The latter would never be an issue though because I'd never willingly let another man ride my woman so they definitely aren't going to be riding my bikes

 

[buckeyboy]

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What happens when you want to invite a friend out on your boat to fish or a couple kids over 13 or 16? These law-makers never stop reaching in ypur pocket. They even want to get into your pention to support whatever. All I can say can't be printed here. @#$%^&*()+-=<>,.?/@#$%^&*()+-=<>,.?/@#$%^&*()+-=<>,.?/@#$%^&*()+-=<>,.?/@#$%^&*()+-=<>,.?/@#$%^&*()+-=<>,.?/@#$%^&*()+-=<>,.?/@#$%^&*()+-=<>,.?/@#$%^&*()+-=<>,.?/ and thats just for starters.

+1 enough already BLOOD SUCKERS

 

[ebry710]

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Fishing licenses feeds the regulatory machine. I cannot fish for Salmon off of Bodega Bay because someone said that recreational fisherman catch too many, but if they hit a river I can catch them. I understand the need to limit catches (maybe to two recreational fish a day), but to stop fishing altogether seem harsh. Especially since commercial fishing is also stopped and those guy are out of a job.

I don't mind paying $41+ a year for permission fish, if the people giving me permission had a balanced and fair regulatory plan and if they remember that they don't own the water, we the people do.

 

[levittownnick]

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Then they better have a fishing license. Just like anyone that wants to drive my car better have a drivers license and anyone that wants to ride my chopper or Harley better have their motorcycle endorsement. The latter would never be an issue though because I'd never willingly let another man ride my woman so they definitely aren't going to be riding my bikes

If I want to drive a car, etc, I have to prove that I have some skills because I could kill or hurt someone or damage property. Fishing is more in the persuite of happyness. If I'm inept (and I am. lol) I just don't catch any fish. No one gets hurt (not even the fish). If I have a boat, I've paid my fees. Its not like there paving the water and maintaining the potholes (yes potholes are maintained, how do you think they are around so long?). These people mandating saltwater license are to me money-suckers, plain and simple. And yes I have no use for them.

 

[rolmops]

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This salt water fishing license stinks.The federal government is trying to lower the tax burden in order to get the economy back on track and the Empire State increases taxes and user fees where ever it can to make sure that NY state will remain the most expensive state to live in. Go figure...
If NY state would reinvest the license money in recreational coastal fishing I would gladly pay,but there is no such investment.

 

[ebry710]

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I understand if the licenses pay for stocking trout, creating reefs or building fishing ladders, but it usually goes to the State general fund.

 

[dingbat]

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ot sure about everywhere else but around here the license fees are used to finance the management of the resource. This includes stocking, law enforcement. boater's education, search and rescue, etc.

I pay $75 year and that covers fresh water and a trout stamp. I also get a Consolidate Bay license which allows me to fish the Bay in both MD. and Va. and covers allows anyone on my boat to fish.

Pretty cheap considering it cost $15 a head to go to a movie anymore.

 

[rolmops]

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The fresh water license fees in NY do go towards restocking and maintenance of the fresh water fishery in NY.I have no quarrel there.
But with the latest budget deficit in NY there is an attitude of "Let's see how we can milk our residents" and there is absolutely no service rendered in return for a salt water license.

 

[ebry710]

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What I don't like is that they use to cover that stuff in the regular budget, then they realized that could raise fees and spend the money saved on something else......therefore no net saving. The only thing good out of it is fish and games still has some budget.

 

[dingbat]

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The fresh water license fees in NY do go towards restocking and maintenance of the fresh water fishery in NY.I have no quarrel there.
But with the latest budget deficit in NY there is an attitude of "Let's see how we can milk our residents" and there is absolutely no service rendered in return for a salt water license.

Same thing down here. Doesn't matter if they call it a tax, a license or a users fee. Bottom line is that your going to pay more and get less one way or another.

 

[pduquette]

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Yup It's gonna be all up and down the eastern seaboard by 2010 - Mass was suppose to be doing a preliminary fee free registration for '09 then start charging for '10 . On "hold" for now with steering comitties tring to keep it on the state level ; other wise it will be the FEDS money....?? Time for another Tea party???
I believe RI ,CT, ME are only ones with open waters so far.

 

[ebry710]

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The thing I hate the most, if the taxes are sometimes justified, but once the money flows politicians and activist take over. They start to:
- close seasons
- eliminate barbs
- call things fly fishing only
- say you can catch that fish, but not this one (as if the fish know when it their turn to bite)
- otherwise take the fun out of fishing

 

[dingbat]

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The thing I hate the most, if the taxes are sometimes justified, but once the money flows politicians and activist take over. They start to:
- close seasons
- eliminate barbs
- call things fly fishing only
- say you can catch that fish, but not this one (as if the fish know when it their turn to bite)
- otherwise take the fun out of fishing

Unfortunately it's those types of things that are keeping some of the fisheries afloat.

In my lifetime I?ve seen the Chesapeake Bay watershed go from of land of a abundance to one that?s struggling just to hold on.

Gone are the massive migrations of Shad and Perch that used to darken the waters in the Spring. My parents used to take us out of school to go fishing at the height of the migrations. They where so thick you could literally catch them using a bucket tied to a rope. Anymore the DNR surveys are turning up hundreds of fish in a stream, not the millions there where when I was a kid.

Pretty sad when you think about.

 

[ebry710]

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Unfortunately it's those types of things that are keeping some of the fisheries afloat.
In my lifetime I?ve seen the Chesapeake Bay watershed go from of land of a abundance to one that?s struggling just to hold on.
Gone are the massive migrations of Shad and Perch that used to darken the waters in the Spring. My parents used to take us out of school to go fishing at the height of the migrations. They where so thick you could literally catch them using a bucket tied to a rope. Anymore the DNR surveys are turning up hundreds of fish in a stream, not the millions there where when I was a kid.
Pretty sad when you think about.

When we were kids the oil from my dad's crankcase was dumped under the oak tree in the back. Today you can get fined for doing that.....and I agree you should. Fishing practice like netting, string lines, dynamite, damming and rifling caused so much damage that you have to regulate. Pollution is a whole other impact. But, like the oil dumping, generations in the past (some people now) looked at bountiful resources as inexhaustibly and "there for the taking".

Today, most sport fisherman catch-and-release or only catch what they need. Populations needing to be replenished have limits or size restrictions, I haven't any problems with that. It just seems that regulations go beyond reason. In California a sport fisherman can't catch ocean salmon, not be limited to two, but the season is closed. So tackle shops, boats shops and local economies are hurt. The season is closed irregardless to impacts to people or effectiveness of purpose. The season is closed because they can.

Fees bring in budgets and money breeds power. You and I, the guys who see environmental impact and are passionate about it, do not want to see resources dwindle. Your thread says that. But has anyone asked us what we know? Are college student with clip boards that only way agencies can gain data? Where are our surveys? Who's picking our brains? Zero fishing and weird restrictions are not sustainable.

 

[Chsrlietuna]

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Here In NY. They have shut down many of the trout hatcheries. You do need to buy a fishing license here for fresh water fishing! And they need more money? So do I but I do not tax the $h!T out of people stick the money in my pocket and then ask for more. At least growing up in Wisconsin they would show you where the money is going. (Ie. stream restorations, stocking.....).

If they were to impose a Saltwater fishing license does that mean I cannot go from Connecticut water to NY water without proper licensing. Not all boats have high tech GPS units to declare when they cross the border.

My other question then is what will party boats do? They have a lot of people that only fish one or two times a year. If they have to pay money on top of their boat fees I think their businesses will tank!

They should keep fishing fees here the way they are! Politicians should not give themselves huge raises during a financial crisis, raise taxes and fees, cut programs and spend our money on lavish dinners and vacations (and prostitutes)! Instead keep sportsman's money where it belongs and prove that it actually is helping our resources.

my.02

-CTuna