Git-rot

[72charger]

just wondering if anyone here has used GIT-ROT to fix their transom?

my 72 newman charger is rated for an 80 but im probably going with a 40-50hp since i know someone that has a solid running johnson setup with steering that may be "donated".

anyway wondering how strong this stuff really is....and how much you had to use... my transom is 18in deep at the splash deck area and 56inches at its widest point.. it seems that the wood is dry rotted in the area where the motor was mounted.. boat has been sitting for a while...wanted to try git rot before i got into a full transom repair...

i ordered a quart system...dont think i will have enough...

 

[ondarvr]

Re: Git-rot

Its of little or no value in repairing a rotten transom, do a search on "rotten transom" and you'll have a couple weeks worth of reading, then a bunch of questions.

 

[tashasdaddy]

Re: Git-rot

i would not use it on my boat. i would either replace the transom, conventionally with wood and glass, or seacast. http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=206019

 

[Chris1956]

Re: Git-rot

Git-rot is supposed to be absorbed into the wood and encapsolute the wood fibers, restoring their strength. I have found in practice that the Git-rot product does not stick well to wet wood, and does not absorb well enough to add strength, much outside the 1/8" hole that was drilled. In addition, when you drill the many holes recommended, to apply the product, you weaken the transom additonally.

Bottom line, if any more than a small percentage of the transom is rotten, you need to replace it. If you had a small portion that had (dry) a dry rotted area, the Git-rot may have some value.

 

[jonesg]

Re: Git-rot

I looked into it but you can't just apply it.
The process requires flooding with acetone to displace the water, then maybe use an organocide such as antifreeze. Then dry it out. Then gitrot.

Seacast was the easier route but cost around $500.
Plus some long drill bits, elec chainsaw.
If you can get at the transom then ply is a better choice for the money.
Also take a look at nidacore or is it nidapour?.
Its 50% cheaper than seacast.

 

[72charger]

Re: Git-rot

is it worth the money for sea-cast?
the rest of the boat is solid...i drilled into the stringers and they were dry.

the boat is 36yrs old...as old as i am...other than the transom its in good shape minus interior stuff and misc parts...

i guess its cheaper than a new boat,

sea-cast here i go!

 

[mthieme]

Re: Git-rot

I have used Git-rot on small areas as a temporary stop gap.
I wasn't very impressed.

 

[Robj]

Re: Git-rot

The only way to fix it properly is to replace it with new wood and glass it in. Have a bottle of git rot and it was a waste of $$. Ok for sealing wood, but not for restoring rotten wood.

Have a great day

Rob.

 

[jonesg]

Re: Git-rot

is it worth the money for sea-cast?
the rest of the boat is solid...i drilled into the stringers and they were dry.

the boat is 36yrs old...as old as i am...other than the transom its in good shape minus interior stuff and misc parts...

i guess its cheaper than a new boat,

sea-cast here i go!

You need a back wall or bilge wall on the rear of the transom to trap the seacast, mine was ruined by the swollen transom ply and cracked everywhere. I ripped it out and built a glassed plywood backwall to the tramsom then poured the seacast in from the top. Its solid as rock.

A seacast transom will be an extra selling point if you ever sell it.

 

[72charger]

Re: Git-rot

here are some pictures...

 

[72charger]

Re: Git-rot

i will post more this weekend

here is a side shot after she was all cleaned up ..

http://members.cox.net/scrantny/Images/DSCF0054.JPG

its a large image...sorry for the link..

 

[wca_tim]

Re: Git-rot

I've done a couple with seacast... tough stuff big time... but almost as much prep / work to do right as cutting and replacing with wood. wood's cheaper, seacast is stronger, a little heavier and will never rot again...

 

[erikgreen]

Re: Git-rot

If the seacast was just cheaper I might try it sometime. Or the new nida-core product that's similar.

But the bottom line is that it's just as much work to use as replacing the transom the old fashioned way.

Installing a new wood transom from the inside of the boat can be an intimidating and long job, but it's not hard to do. If lack of experience and skill is what's holding you back, give it some more thought.

On the size of boat you appear to have, it looks like you could manage the wood transom easily. To install the sea-cast you're going to have to remove that cap for sure... which you might have to do for a wood transom, but maybe not.

Erik

 

[jonesg]

Re: Git-rot

A sawzall with fine teeth can be used to cut the top of the transom off, the cap can stay put. But only if the rear wall of the transom will hold the seacast when poured in.

From the way the boat is already stripped out I would rather cut the splaswell off and redo it from inside with ply.

 

[72charger]

Re: Git-rot

where would you suggest i cut the splash well...

and if i were to do wood could i just do it from the inside? i dont have a large budget for it either so the slower wood route might be the route i take...

it will have its own home soon..i have a claim on hail damage on some patio covers that were new and they are being replaced..i will use the old stuff to make a suitable out of the weather area to store it and do the work thats needed.

it just scares the hell outta me to go cuttin on this thing...
i dont mind doing the work but i just think slicing open the transom in the back and pouring in a suitable substance would be easier and less glassing and cutting and grinding and all that messy stuff.

decisions decisions

 

[jackwilsontexas]

Re: Git-rot

Hi ,
find the patio covers expert in this forum may you find him which is near to home and also affordable. because any person give his suggestion after seeing the actual condition.

 

[oops!]

Re: Git-rot

decisions decisions

hey charger........the best thing you can do is read.... read.... read.....

its not tough......look at johnnys ..."pics of work so far"

thats a glasstron 156 tri hull.....simmelar to your boat....you might want to pull the cap.....no biggie.....once you are in there...it goes fast.

post more pics and we can walk you right thru it!

cheers
oops

 

[jackwilsontexas]

Re: Git-rot

Another good things is that find the latest design on the net, implement by simple drawing it and then call any expert is it possible or not.

 

[jonesg]

Re: Git-rot

where would you suggest i cut the splash well...

and if i were to do wood could i just do it from the inside? i dont have a large budget for it either so the slower wood route might be the route i take...

it will have its own home soon..i have a claim on hail damage on some patio covers that were new and they are being replaced..i will use the old stuff to make a suitable out of the weather area to store it and do the work thats needed.

it just scares the hell outta me to go cuttin on this thing...
i dont mind doing the work but i just think slicing open the transom in the back and pouring in a suitable substance would be easier and less glassing and cutting and grinding and all that messy stuff.

decisions decisions

The easiest way at this point is just pop the top and slide it forward, its either that or cut through the gunnels on either side and lift the splashwell off, but if cutting makes you nervous. I'd take a sawzall to it in a flash.
Glassing it back is simple .

I suppose it depends on how value you place on the boat,
I buy cheap beaters and beat on em.

 

[jackwilsontexas]

Re: Git-rot

Hi,
I found one site on the internet.
I don't know. How it will help you?
But check it --

EDIT: This thread has nothing to do with patio covers or concrete, Jack. If you wish to continue posting here stick to the topic and follow the rules. JB